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[–]malleus_maleficarum 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can certainly see where you are coming from and you raise valid points. But I've already had to ruthlessly cut out women in my life who are career social workers who would cheerfully make you and I share a room in a shelter with a TIM. That's real and immediate and I will not allow those women back into my life, my home, my support network, my trust, etc. They have prioritzed predatory men over other women. They can get help from those men instead of from me.

"I will stand by while someone is raped"

But that isn't what I said. Please be careful not to misrepresent those of us you disagree with.

[–]dancing_with_durga[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for your reply, and I would like to make it clear I don't disagree with you about outrage against people who fail to protect womens' most critical safe spaces. It is completely outrageous, it is gaslighting, it is cowardly betrayal, I don't blame you at all for cutting those women out of your life. The issue I was raising is tactics & not giving the other side weapons to use against us. Sorry for putting (what I thought was) a paraphrase into quotes.

edited to add: When I first started peaking I went looking for the best arguments I could find in favour of the trans ideology. The TRAs would do their best to paint radfems as hateful witches, and it was really obvious to me that their attempts to find the worst things feminists had done/said were incredibly tame compared with the violence and harassment on their side. But when I read that comment of yours that I replied to I could really clearly imagine a TRA cutting and pasting it, quoting it out of context as "See, this is what they're like." It's not fair that we have to be so much more careful with what we say but it's just how it is because they have all the power.

[–]malleus_maleficarum 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that's a very good point and I'll amend my comment accordingly.

PS: This is an example of how to interact when you disagree with people.