(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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CNN's "people with cervixes" nonsense while an article on men's health uses the word "men" 27 times has peaked me all over again: https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1288948978088804355

In a couple of years I think all the "Trans Women Are Women" brainwashed ninnies are going to be backtracking and retconning. We are going to get the word "woman" back. There are too many of us.

But this is the time when we know who the brave ones are. The ones who have a mind of their own. The ones who hear the first circular definition, or the first Orwellian argument that doesn't hold together, and immediately say "Hang on, this is bullshit."

I am going to remember the people who care about women.

(Saidit) PEAK TRANS I: Please continue to share your stories!! by Irascible-harpy in GenderCritical

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I am a mother of two as well and I would feel very uncomfortable having my children spending time with someone who expects them to deny the reality that they can see. My 2 year old daughter is already much more comfortable around women than men. This article helped me see that the insistence on pronouns is deeper than it may seem:

https://fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/

So You Care About Womens' Rights. What Are You Going To Do About It? (FEEDBACK REQUESTED PLEASE) by dancing_with_durga in GenderCritical

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Thanks for your reply, and I would like to make it clear I don't disagree with you about outrage against people who fail to protect womens' most critical safe spaces. It is completely outrageous, it is gaslighting, it is cowardly betrayal, I don't blame you at all for cutting those women out of your life. The issue I was raising is tactics & not giving the other side weapons to use against us. Sorry for putting (what I thought was) a paraphrase into quotes.

edited to add: When I first started peaking I went looking for the best arguments I could find in favour of the trans ideology. The TRAs would do their best to paint radfems as hateful witches, and it was really obvious to me that their attempts to find the worst things feminists had done/said were incredibly tame compared with the violence and harassment on their side. But when I read that comment of yours that I replied to I could really clearly imagine a TRA cutting and pasting it, quoting it out of context as "See, this is what they're like." It's not fair that we have to be so much more careful with what we say but it's just how it is because they have all the power.

So You Care About Womens' Rights. What Are You Going To Do About It? (FEEDBACK REQUESTED PLEASE) by dancing_with_durga in GenderCritical

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I was assuming the original commenter meant to cancel donations to women-erasing organisations & move the money to ones that do support women, rather than just taking money away from causes. Giving the baby new bath water so to speak.

However, setting aside any personal feelings, I do strongly believe that if we want to be politically effective we need to be ruthless about that effectiveness. I just don't think that language in a public forum like "burn down the shelter" or "I will stand by while someone is raped" is ever going to help us, even if the anger behind it is deserved, even if the other side is worse, I just don't think it is ever helpful. Vent to a friend in life if you have to, but leaving statements like that up in gender critical forums is only going to give others an excuse to demonise us.

So You Care About Womens' Rights. What Are You Going To Do About It? (FEEDBACK REQUESTED PLEASE) by dancing_with_durga in GenderCritical

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Thank you, will add to the social media engagement section (I guess it's general media though)

So You Care About Womens' Rights. What Are You Going To Do About It? (FEEDBACK REQUESTED PLEASE) by dancing_with_durga in GenderCritical

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Thank you! That's a great one to add, volunteering as a moderator on a forum like this is very valuable. Maybe that counts in the medium effort category? I'm not sure how much time it takes because I've never done it.

And another good point, for anyone who has influence over a rentable meeting space they can make sure it is available for feminist groups. I will add those to the article.

And definitely agree, it seems like we have a massive need for tech skills to set up un-cancellable platforms because sadly it seems like all of Silicon Valley is against us :(

So You Care About Womens' Rights. What Are You Going To Do About It? (FEEDBACK REQUESTED PLEASE) by dancing_with_durga in GenderCritical

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Thanks so much! If you have the time, I would love more feedback about what you ended up doing and what you found helpful in the article and/or what could be more helpful.

So You Care About Womens' Rights. What Are You Going To Do About It? (FEEDBACK REQUESTED PLEASE) by dancing_with_durga in GenderCritical

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Thank you so much for your comment! I definitely think that one on one conversations are a really valuable action that we can take and by far the best way of convincing someone when they know you in person. So it sounds like you definitely are doing something really important already.

I am curious for more feedback since I guess I would hope the article would help people like you and me who feel unsure about what/how much we can do. Have you ever sent any emails or letters? I think there are still organisations on the list that you could get in touch with even if you aren't a voter at the moment. Are there any actions in the article that you might consider doing in the future? What do you see as your barriers to getting more involved?

So You Care About Womens' Rights. What Are You Going To Do About It? (FEEDBACK REQUESTED PLEASE) by dancing_with_durga in GenderCritical

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That's a great one and a relatively low effort action, will add to the list. Generally those types of NGOs are a good candidate for emails, I will add. Thank you!

So You Care About Womens' Rights. What Are You Going To Do About It? (FEEDBACK REQUESTED PLEASE) by dancing_with_durga in GenderCritical

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Thank you so much!! I would definitely appreciate your thoughts. As I said I have no experience in activism so my hope on where to take this article is to collate a lot of advice & comments from people who do. I also plan to send some DM's to prominent ppl on Twitter asking for their advice & feedback (if they think it is a useful article).

And yes, good point that another great avenue of effort is self work to undo any sexist programming and live authentic lives & have authentic relationships. I might just mention that briefly but I think it's worth its own article (and I think there are probably already great articles out there on that topic).

Oh yes, one other thought is that of all avenues for activism this one seems unique in terms of the potential number of interested contributors who want to stay anonymous. I wouldn't think twice speaking out publicly against FGM but I am very cautious about gender critical issues. So there is an interesting strategic question of how to organise & take advantage of a large amount of anonymous energy.

Argument with boyfriend last night about Reddit's censorship of women, and he called me a transphobe by sosorreal in GenderCritical

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My husband cares about women. When I started showing him some of the gender critical stuff he got it INSTANTLY. He is now more outraged than me (if possible). It is possible for men to understand and empathize with women, even if many of them choose not to. Don't settle. There are kind men out there who will see you as a human.

Today I realized that I am willing to lose my job and reputation over this. I will not be silenced. by yoperreosola in GenderCritical

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My husband cares about women and so he instantly saw how sinister transgender ideology is. He's now even more outraged than me (if that's possible). There are men out there who care about women. Don't settle.

Peak trans: tell your story here by Sittingonarainbow in GenderCritical

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Reddit silencing women has DEFINITELY given me a major re-peak. I first peaked a year ago when I was researching trans issues because I wanted to be a better ally and learn about respecting pronouns. The more I learned the more I was like "Wait...hang on? What? Males in female sports? Girldick? Harassing and silencing women who speak up? Cotton ceiling? Calling us menstruators? WHAT?!" But for a long time I thought it was just a silly fringe issue. I don't want to be a political person, I want a quiet life with my family. The unbelievable vitriol poured out on JK Rowling, and now this act of woman hating censorship. They are making me want to fight.

So RIP the Subreddit that saved me from being trans. by blahblahgcer in GenderCritical

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I am so sorry. Your experience sounds so isolating. It's a big world out there and you will find new friends who support you in a sensible, grounded way of living in the world.