Is the trans community (and allies) detransphobic ?

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[–]Feather 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

According to the "egg" community, it seems like every single human is trans. I mean, their egg shit is flimsy as hell. I like explosions in movies and hate women's pants because the pockets aren't big enough. Based on that alone they'd probably say I should be a trans man.

The funny thing is that if we were all as trans as they think everyone is (considering their standards for "eggs" = no standards), they wouldn't be special anymore. Do they really not understand that literally EVERYONE is an egg by their standards? Or do they genuinely believe that the stuff they see as egg-ish is rare and special?

[–]Wrencer[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wow, you're definitely a trans guy /s

That sub is toxic af. Their pinned post is some nonsense about "you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans. You don't need to medically transition to be trans. You don't need to socially transition to be trans" (then, what's the point of being trans ??). I posted it on my sub (where everyone in the LGBT community was welcome) and trans ppl there were literally MOCKING egg_irl and saying how disrespectful their pinned post was to trans ppl with legit gender dysphoria, and those who actually transition.

It's funny how the narrative changed. Before, it was necessary to go on hormones, to have surgery, ... To call yourself a woman. Now, a cis man could basically say "I'm a woman" and, tada ! He's a woman.

[–]Feather 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's very weird. It's like a fast-motion real-life example of the slippery slope fallacy actually reflecting reality.

I'm sure there are lots of trans people who think much of what's going on is BS, but they're certainly not the loudest voices and they themselves have to fear for their livelihood and safety if they're open about being "truscum."

[–]Wrencer[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's pretty crazy that they went as far as considering trans ppl who have actually fully transitioned as "gatekeepers" and call them by that ugly slur. The trans community needs some gatekeeping, and gatekeeping isn't really a bad thing considering some situations like kids transitioning

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Okay. Please excuse my ignorance, my irl trans experience (sibling) is a little dated. I know about stealth, passing, "gold stars," hormones, SRS, etc. but WTAF is it with this egg thing? Holy crap. Is it pure meme? Gaming-inspired? Quasi-mythological social contagion? Too much weed? I mean, what is this mess? 🤦🏻‍♀️🌀

[–]Feather 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I suspect the egg meme thing is mostly teenagers convincing other teenagers to be trans, but it's not like adult trans people are discouraging them - the more trans kids, the better (in their minds).

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Follow-up thought -- in the young developing brain, wouldn't "imagining yourself as the opposite sex" just be a natural part of learning how to cognitively "do" empathy? We used to call that play-acting. Now adults are trying to train young brains to accept that impulse as material reality and groom them for trans? That is seriously warped.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

to train young brains to accept that impulse as material reality

Thank you post-modernism! In seriousness, though, you aren't wrong, but you have to factor in the highly pornographied world we live in. When trying to imagine yourself as the other sex (at least in the m-t-f scenario), and a ton of your references to them are porn or objectified roles (mother, wife) - you can't empathize with them, you can only fetishize them. Fetishization requires a reduction to object or part. If you have a heavy porn user imagining themselves as female via sex roles, you end up with the AGP.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. We're off the road with this -- maybe off the map? -- with the absolute porn-saturation of young developing brains. Increasingly violent porn. We've literally never been here before . . . How much is that hijacking empathy? Undermining empathy? What kind of neuroplastic grooves are being laid down by this?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oooookay. Thank you. So they've memed the process (as they imagine it?) and the adults have hooked in. Gross.