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[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that what gets forgotten is that when men let someone else bring up their kids that means they have a very different relationship to those kids than people who actually take the time out to raise them. I know so many people who don't even speak to their fathers and I'm sure you do too. My mum used to run a sheltered housing block and one guy had 10 kids but still ended up in a bedsit on his own because they all hated him, those kids looked after their mothers at home though. So men can't have it all either, they also have a trade off, they just worry about it less.