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[–]MadLass 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Ya I really feel politically lost in all this.

[–]lmaonope333 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

yes. I hate leftist culture right now but I also dont wanna get pushed towards extreme right wing. and I know myself to be a black and white thinker sometimes

[–]venecia 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's why spaces like this are so important. Without some place like this I could very well see myself saying ''fuck it, I'm the hateful conservative TERF you think I am for disagreeing with even 5% of what you say, will you be happy now?''. I'd never say vote for someone like Trump but damn.

[–]SameOldBS 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, feeling much that way myself. Actually might vote Tory if they explicitly opposed this crap.

[–]TheInternetSucksNow 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is untenable, in my opinion, to explicitly identify with either the "Culture War" Left or the "Culture War" Right. If you do any political activism it's probably smart to just focus on specific issues like Women's Rights and lobby whichever politicians are least insane on these kinds of topics. Building independent parallel institutions is the single most important thing we need to do in the medium term so that we can prevent another complete subversion of Feminist activism from re-occurring in the future. The short term future looks horrible as the wokies have ridiculous power due to a lot of the Left and a lot of Corporations completely capitulating to their demands. With hard work and dedication, however, I think we can get back to circa ~2012 women's issues policies in 10 to 20 years. (Just trying to be realistic)

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are not the only options. It is just another false dichotomy created to confuse and divide people. Even in the classical political compass sense there are at least 4 "sides" of the political spectrum. Unfortunately the current iteration of the fashionable "left" is an authoritarian faction, but you can also be a libertarian leftist, a centrist, or just not call yourself any of those labels at all. Actually thinking for yourself and having integrity is something really worth valuing, not a meaningless amorphous label that changes meaning with the times.

[–]lmaonope333 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm libertarian left according to the political compass test. but I find that a lot of the "woke" crowd is also lib left. like the kind that say Fuck T*rfs

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not sure in what universe people who want to censor and control speech are "libertarian" lmao.