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[–]terfy_delight 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Me too! But we're not Jesus. We can't keep turning the other cheek every time we get punched in the face. If people are being shitty, we're well within our rights to call them out on their shittyness. In the banned sub, I saw that TW tell you that you weren't "cis." They basically told you that you weren't a woman bc you didn't fit their sexist stereotype of being a woman. Not saying you had to blow up on them, but that was a really f-ed up thing to say. You were so nice about it, but just think how they would act if the situation was reversed. They would lose their shit. A lot of these TRAs are terrible people. They're horribly misogynistic, hypocrites, fascists, homophobic, racist and whole bunch of other terrible things. It's crazy to feel we have to be nice to people like that.

I'm an individualist too, which is why I'm technically not a Radfem. I don't believe woman is a group/class per say, bc there are lots of women I don't have anything in common w/. I know that sounds weird coming from someone who lives a feminist separatist type lifestyle. I've just found that a common denominator in a lot of shitty people seems to be that they're male. When they call themselves women, it someone doesn't seem to change any of that. But do I hate all men, no. If I had to choose between a random woman and my mom's husband, who I love and trust, and I know would die for me- I would choose him. Being a woman doesn't tell me much about that random person, except odds are she isn't going to sexually harass me or act like an arrogant, dismissive man.

So all that, just to say, it's ok to be fed up, and it's ok to get pissed off. And its also ok to not hate men or trans people.

I don't mean to write a novel, but I wanted to add one more thing about pronouns. I don't think you understand why a lot of GC women don't use preferred pronouns. We're not doing it to be mean and hurt people (well a few are, but most aren't). We're not using them to help undo libfem brainwashing. We have been brainwashed to believe that bc a male person identifies as a woman- they're not a man, and they're now a woman. Pronouns reinforce that programming. All of this is so complicated bc a part of you (that's a general you) still views them as not men. Just think about how evil you feel calling them men. Why? It's crazy. It's bc we've had it programmed in our minds. Not using pronouns just help undo that. This all becomes very clear once you realize you are talking about men- not some "not men" or even different kind of woman or honorary woman- MEN. You don't have to be hurtful and call them that to their face, but it makes a difference when you finally acknowledge that to yourself.

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks, and yeah, I agree about that particular person. I guess I feel in a lot of those situations, I should just be the bigger person. If someone is a lost cause, they're not worth my time or effort. And it's important to let them know that what they say doesn't bother me.

Pronouns reinforce that programming

I agree. I go back and forth on this issue. With some people it's harder to me to consider calling them by their biological pronouns. Like Buck Angel. "She" doesn't roll off the tongue. It's not my first instinct. But like with small children or criminals, I have no hesitation. Everyone else it just kind of varies. In general I'm happy to use them as a courtesy, but I don't believe it's an indication they have actually changed sex.