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[–][deleted] 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Does embracing femininity and wanting a traditional lifestyle mean that a woman shouldn't want accesses to rights for herself and other women? End goals on what a woman wants for their own lives don't dictate that they expect other women to live for the same goals. Those women still deserve accesses to women's centric reproductive rights and spaces to discuss their concerns and feel safe, right? We can fight for the same things while some of us wear ratty band tees, and others wear dresses. That point needs to made to them as well.

I don't mean to derail, but this is stupid shit to be divisive over.

[–]Feather 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It really is. If we have to argue about whether a woman in a skirt is a bad feminist, let's do it later. Right now we need strength in numbers to fight for our most basic rights. To be frank, our enemies have always been fantastic at allowing us to divide ourselves so that they can then swoop in and conquer. We shouldn't let ourselves do that work for them.

And as long as a dude is "sOoO brave" for wearing a skirt, I'm sure as fuck not going to tell an actual woman that she's a coward for wearing one. I don't want to go yet further into a topsy turvy world there are yet MORE things that are only okay if men do them.

With that said, the FDS sub does have a lot of questionable ideas about performing gender. But I'm not gonna kick them out of whatever club I'm in as long as they understand that biological sex is real, that women need a wide variety of urgent rights to be respected and re-gained, that porn is revolting and degrading, etc.

[–]DifferentAirGC 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's ok to be girly, but performing femininity is not empowering or a feminist statement. It's a neutral act at best.

[–]Feather 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. Maybe I didn't read through the linked posts well enough to notice whether they were encouraging people to "act" feminine instead of just saying it's okay to be girly.

[–]Thatstealthygal 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Seeing skirted garments as innately feminine is western centric also. They should consider that.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

our enemies have always been fantastic at allowing us to divide ourselves so that they can then swoop in and conquer. We shouldn't let ourselves do that work for them.

People keep saying this, and somehow every time it's said I still need to hear it. Thank you for saying it again.

[–]venecia 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Co-signed in entirety. I want this space to be free of petty in-fighting. We all have different views but agree on the core truths.