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[–]badMADam 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is also noteworthy that the male comments usually got very much upvoted, and if some of them would happen to make useful or insightful comments some women would also write things like "This is the most intelligent thing I have ever read" when women already made those points before (Litterally! I have really seen this over there!) I think a lot of women are still conditioned to see males as some sort of intellectual authority, and they do not want to question themselves enough about their interlalized sexism. When a male shows some sympathy for women, even if just performative, these kinds of women are gushing because they feel so validated by a man, and it seems that this is the most important thing for them. i don't mean to demean those women because they pften aren't aware of their responses, but people need to be more self- aware about those things especially in feminism (or when dealing with other conditioned behaviours and reactions like with racism). You want to change something in the world? Do some really hard self- questioning first. Sorry about my English at the moment, I am tired.

[–]DangerJelly 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

(side note- it is so often people whose first language is not english apologize for their english- yours was perfect! Wouldn't have known you weren't a native speaker until you said so. Although I am just now considering this is probably because the internet likes to jump on typos or grammatical issues without first considering if the poster is a native speaker... but I digress). Completely spot on, thank you for adding this. Sometimes the stuff they said was useful but again- they were taking over a space that wasn't theirs and the complete lack of unified response by women was detrimental. There were really only a few women there who had done the kind of critical self-examination you are talking about, and it was so frustrating to see them downvoted because "we need men for this to succeed"... like yeah but we need men to actually DO stuff not just post online all day about how they really get it now (and illustrate how much they don't get because they are still posting in a women's space!)