So it's come to this.

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[–]yishengqingwa666 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

OK... how can we know that they won't ban us here, too...?

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, I would build a permanent home someplace more secure, but this is probably an ok place to regroup for today. I think spinster is the most secure we've got right now because it's federated.

[–]Aletheia 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Spinster is great and I recommend every user here to create an account also on that site, but imho we need another more open platform. A huge part of the reason r/GenderCritical grew as rapidly as it did, was because it was an open sub on a massive website and attracted a lot of curious people who simply ended up there randomly, or alternatively choosing to "hate-read" it after hearing a lot of negative comments and ultimately changing their mind. We need to create something similar. Gender critical websites are crucial (especially if a similar purge was to ever occur), but we need to reach out to new people - not (only) those who already share our point of view, or else all we have is a tiny echo chamber.

[–]gparmesan[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I panic-created this in the moments after I saw the GC ban. If you are creating something more secure and robust I highly recommend doing so, I will help spread the word.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'll let you know if I see or manage to make something. Didn't mean to not be appreciative of having a place here! This is extremely important.

I think it's important to know we may not be safe her permanently though. We should be looking towards more secure alternatives on the timescale of ... well, before the next election, if there is one, probably, at least.

[–]gparmesan[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

agree 100%. I am not super confident about it, but I knew I wasn't going to be the only one looking for the next platform. Better me than some smug gencyn prick getting to it first. But we need real infrastructure.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

As long as people follow the "pyramid of debate" mods seem pretty aight. see here

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

see /s/holocaustskepticism

I don't think this place is safe long-term. last night the GC mods were sure they weren't gonna get kicked off because they'd followed the rules on reddit too. They've been getting better, but look at the way the admins treated people. Yes I'm grateful this place exists and I don't want to bad-mouth it for that reason -- but I also don't think it's a safe place long-term. imo.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Ultimately the only truly safe place is a GC woman with her own servers and know-how. I know I don't have either one of those.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

mesh networking looks promising, imo, for any tech-ladies reading this.

[–]Aletheia 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

nd take a different stance. That's a huge oversimplification but I'm just explaining that that's part of what the name means in this context.

I kind of agree, it is only a matter of time until the TRAs try to infiltrate the administration of this platform as well, and from then on anything could happen (as we just saw on Reddit). However, I don't think it is a reason to give up on the fight, the more people we reach and the more people see the censoring attempts, the more people we have the chance to wake up. We need sites like these, aside from our own.

[–]Anonimouse 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We can sorta learn from the last purge. A lot of actually disgusting subs were banned, they tried to evade, and eventually moved to voat. Those who really liked the banned subs stayed around. The casual visitor made an account, complained about reddit administration, then ultimately went back to reddit after a few weeks cause all the other communities are still there. The admins there seem to realise that getting rid of reddit refugees means losing a lot of site traffic when you are trying to compete with something that big.

[–]yishengqingwa666 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty.

[–]TheGreatLeon 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Unlike reddit, this place is open source so in theory they can’t be politically bullied and intimidated into suppressing free speech.