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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (62 children)

No, just in cases where it affects an identity I've had my entire life. Also idk it's gross to compare it to slipping someone something in their drink when there isn't any concrete person's autonomy being violated here. Who's hurt by me being a woman?

[–]comradeconradical 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (61 children)

Who is hurt by you pretending to be a woman? Everyone who is forced to play along or face backlash, everyone who has to ignore their instincts for social cohesion, everyone who has to give up their privacy to accommodate you, everyone who has to ignore reality for your benefit.

Your identity does not exist separate from society, and by claiming to be a woman, you negatively impact women and their female-specific rights and issues. Frankly, it's insulting to many of us who are actually female and socialized as girls in a sexist society our entire lives.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (60 children)

How am I making people do that when I don't tell anyone irl I'm trans? And what privacy would even be given up?

Why is it insulting just because I wasn't raised that way? How many years of living do I need to go through as an adult before it will matter more than the childhood I never chose? When I'm 37 can I say I'm a woman then?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (59 children)

Woman is not a title that is earned, bestowed, or given to anyone. As unfair as you may find it, there is no equation or formula or set of rites that can make anyone a woman.

A person is or isn’t and that’s all there is to it. I’d like to be tall and to be able to survive at 32kgs and have previously deluded myself into believing the latter is possible. It isn’t though, and nothing will make it so, even if it torments me.

Sometimes shit just happens the way we don’t want it to and it cannot be changed. Acceptance of the impossible is healthy.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (58 children)

I simply don't believe that, nothing is impossible. I won't accept something that viscerally wrong.

[–]Juniperius 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All sorts of things are impossible, what on earth are you going on about?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Do you mean like, physically? Sure, like, maybe reversing entropy is impossible. But sex change is not, the only barrier is medical knowledge and ability? Like if we could engineer a helpful virus to modify the DNA of every cell, etc.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (55 children)

You can choose denial but acceptance would be better for you in the long run. Why wait an entire lifetime for an impossibility when there is the possibility for greater self acceptance while you’re alive

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (54 children)

Because that self-acceptance would require me to accept something that feels and has always felt incredibly wrong to me. I would be a different person entirely and so it's kind of pointless to accept that because "I" wouldn't be around to live that life; it'd be some version of me content with being amab. That's so unfamiliar to me that I find it totally unrelatable.

Also idk it took me forever to accept that I'm trans and I'm still kind of ashamed of it so I'd rather not tax my mental health with accepting additional things

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (53 children)

And you don’t think it’s better to accept the unchangeable, maybe improve some patterns of thought like the ones that say maleness is the worst torture imaginable?

Preferring not to process information that is painful is not a healthy practice. If you prefer not to tax yourself with accepting material reality that’s your choice, but it’s not a healthy one.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (52 children)

I just cannot accept something that I did not choose and that has felt wrong to me my entire life. I don't think it's the worst torture imaginable for everyone, just for me. Idk what information I could "process" that would in any way improve my situation or how I conceptualize myself. You can let biology control you but I don't think that's healthy either

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (51 children)

Biology doesn’t control me though. I think this may be a projection. My biology just is. No matter what I may feel about it, it is. Interfering with it will not meaningfully alter my biology.

Every day people are having to make peace with things they cannot control about their bodies. People get arthritis, osteoporosis, paralysed, they lose limbs and sight and hearing. They are short or tall or broad shouldered or prone to fat.

Your denial and emotional arguments aren’t going to change material reality. I’m not trying to take this coping mechanism away from you but I won’t treat your emotions about things as a reason to also indulge in fantasy and idealistic wishes when there are real things.

For people who don’t have these type of issues with gender, the rhetoric can seem kind of..navel gazey. It can look to outsiders like a request we put aside our own realities and perceptions in order to allow someone else to better feed their own idealised version of themselves.

Imagine being told that someone can’t achieve, idk, heaven or enlightenment or some other ideal unless you agree the ideal exists, you see it, and you say so to the person aiming for heaven.