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[–]LemurLemur 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"facts don't care about your feelings."

Honestly, I get the need to vent. There are certain topics that make me very upset and depressed.

This is... sort of what makes conversations here hard. You claiming "GC are just too rational, we don't worry about feelings" and but also claiming "we're so repressed that we need to be able to vent our feelings." You can't "vent your feelings" and also "put facts over feelings" at the same time, you know?

Which is why I say this sub first probably needs to figure out what it wants this sub to be - a place to "vent" or a place to communicate objectively with people who don't necessarily all agree. It can't really be both.

I should clarify, I see plenty of trans people that are rude as well and I'm not a part of their culture any more than I'm part of GC. I argue with trans people plenty as well, over similar topics (ie burning bridges instead of setting good examples, prioritizing venting over objectivity, us vs. them mentalities ect). I'm not saying any of this with the intention of implying GC are the only people who do anything wrong. If this were a trans-heavy sub trying to increase GC contributions, I'd be just as forthcoming with issues I've observed from the trans community. This is just a GC sub, with a primarily GC demographic, so I'm just talking about things GC do.

[–]BiologyIsReal 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Facts don't stop being facts just because they aren't told in the nicest way possible.

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not that GC people are "too rational," but that some women are very blunt and don't try to cushion their words to spare the feelings of QT.

I was thinking more of Ovarit. A lot of women see it as a place to vent, for better or worse. However, I believe this sub should be focused on discourse and debate.

This is just a GC sub, with a primarily GC demographic, so I'm just talking about things GC do.

And that's fair. We are almost completely GC, so it makes sense to address things that might be holding back the QT demographic from participating. Honestly, I think what really killed us was getting banned from Reddit. There are thousands of QT people there, and dozens or maybe even hundreds who were willing to debate with us. Very few here on Saidit. I don't think most QT people know we still exist. I don't believe it's so much the behavior of GC that stymies participation as the change in venue. But good debate does require GC to think about how we can most effectively impart our message.

If you are mostly on the QT side, please feel free to stick around! We could use more of you guys for sure.