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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

So? Wikipedia is edited frequently and is pro tra because they can’t afford to lose the donations TRA would try to get people to stop making if they didn’t obey.

Ignoring the rest as usual?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

People can donate wherever they want. Vancouver city council defunded Vancouver Rape Relief and then GoFundMe cancelled the fundraiser. Yet people frequently donate directly on their website to this day. No one can stop people from donating, even TRAs. If enough people would stop donating that Wikipedia wouldn't function, that would mean most people are TRAs.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Nobody can stop donations but they can absolutely launch online and irl campaigns and demands by claiming transphobia and kicking up a stink until it becomes bad press.

You can research and find out for yourself just how recently this definitions has been changed.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nobody can stop donations but they can absolutely launch online and irl campaigns and demands by claiming transphobia and kicking up a stink until it becomes bad press.

True but an online campaign wouldn't do anything unless the majority of people were TRAs.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

How does not donating to something because you know a very loud and frequently violent group will happily attack you for doing so, make anybody a TRA?

You gonna say there’s no tras out there sending threats, doxxing, and harassing women for less? Cause it would be a bald faced lie.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

TRAs aren't any louder than any other group. Donations are 100% anonymous, unless someone has access to your credit card history.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lmao tras are obscenely loud for such a small group.

Do you think as many people would be willing to go along with it if it was more widely known how common sexual and violent threats and crimes are from transgender women? Or if women who speak up were not instantly shouted down and vilified by those making the threats?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

TRAs aren't louder than other groups. Also, we aren't a small group.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Repeating something is not a rebuttal.

If you aren’t a small powerless group, why does tra present itself as such a teensy vulnerable little group being quashed by the mean terfs?

[–]Juniperius 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know about Canada, but in the US it's not quite 100%. Nonprofits are required to disclose information about their donors to the IRS. And there are ways for reporters, activists, hackers, etc to aquire some of that information as well.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Before 2018, non-profits were required to disclose information about donors who contributed $5,000 or more. The rules were amended so non-profits don't have to disclose donor information at all. I donated to Wikipedia as well as various other non-profits. When I googled my name, I couldn't find anything about the donations.