Qt/tra, how does identity form?

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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

But also aren’t going to do anything in furtherance of them.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Did you make sure women and girls had alternative safe spaces when you nullified their safe spaces?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I’m fine sharing. And pose no threat.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That’s not what I asked at all lmao

When you took safe spaces from females by entering those spaces, did you advocate for females to have replacement safe spaces?

It’s a simple yes or no. Either you did or you did not. The answer is clearly no. So you got what you felt you needed and did nothing to make sure a separate demographic had what they needed. Why are women not allowed to do the same without you placing responsibility on us to find solutions for you? Why do women have to do for you what you didn’t do for us?

And yes, tw in female spaces does in fact pose a threat to females.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I never made a change. Trans women have been using women’s rooms for as long as I’ve been alive.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And nobody ever made sure women had safe spaces away from any type of male.

So women are not somehow now responsible for making sure you have somewhere safe to pee. That’s how that works.

[–]MarkTwainiac 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trans women have been using women’s rooms for as long as I’ve been alive.

I dunno how old you are, so I don't how long that goes back to. But in most places, it's only been within the current century that TW have been able to use girls' & women's restrooms with the protection of the law; with the backing of school, workplace, retail establishment, venues and other public facilities' policies; and with the support of the wider culture. Places like NYC changed its local code to make it illegal to have female-only restrooms in 2002, but in most places the changes are much more recent - in the past decade, and especially the past few years.

[–]BiologyIsReal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Women cannot tell which trans identified males poses a threath any better than with other males. Though, the fact so many of them ignore our boundaries don' speak well of them.

Women weren't asked either if we liked sharing spaces with some males. You all are not sharing, you are invading.

[–]Penultimate_Penance 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Women don't know if a strange man poses a threat or not. That's why we need single sex spaces.

[–]BiologyIsReal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why should I do so?