Qt/tra, how does identity form?

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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

They’re even harder to Justify if society considers us as “men asking for even more”.

[–]BiologyIsReal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Society already knows "transwomen" are actually men asking for more... Many people won't admit it out loud but no one really believes TWAW. If males who identify as trans weren't viewed as men they would have be given nothing by society. They wouldn't be believed when you talk about suicide and murder. They wouldn't be able to get away with saying or doing many outrageous things. That is not like how women are treated. At all.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Way to prove my Point.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Way to ignore the point lol

[–]BiologyIsReal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

How am I proving your point when I'm saying that being viewed as men has not affected males who identify as trans's advocacy?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Because you lump us in with men and then immediately assume wild and untrue privilege.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think you understand what male privilege is…

[–]BiologyIsReal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I assumed nothing. What I said is based on observable evidence. Didn't I tell you how trans activists have been far more succesful than feminists in my country for example?

[–]Penultimate_Penance 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's the deal if transwomen were actually women they wouldn't have the funding or backing from big companies, organizations and politicians that they do now. Men's desires matter more than women's physical reality. Tale as old as time. Abortion rights and other essential rights that affect women aka female people exclusively are taking a back seat to allowing super special males access to what should be women's single sex spaces.

Giving men everything they want at women's expense is not the civil rights issue of our time. The fact that society is treating it as though it is proof of transwomen's male privilege.