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[–]MarkTwainiac 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Aren’t HSTS TW more likely to be subject to violence though? I feel like I’ve heard about it a lot more often when stories of murders come out.

I don't think anyone can really say. We've all heard this is the case, especially "when stories of murders come out," but I think when you drill down into the particulars of what happened in each case murder this isn't necessarily borne out. But we really don't know because there aren't good records and stats.

In the US, HSTS who work as prostitutes FT, PT or just occasionally, probably have a higher likelihood of being subjected to violence by other males than they would if they didn't do "sex work" - but "sex work" is dangerous for everyone who does it. Also, there's no evidence that the HSTS who do "sex work" in the US suffer rates of violence and murder anywhere near the levels that prostituted girls & women do.

Males (whether or not they are HSTS) who do "sex work" tend to be at risk of being on the receiving and giving end of male-on-male violence for a host of other reasons - involvement in other criminal activity, often with scrappy partners/buddies in crime; drug and alcohol abuse and addiction; less-than-ideal housing situations or homelessness; stormy relationships with lovers, partners, family and friends; coming from and hanging out in high-crime "bad neighborhoods;" engagement in a lot of risky behaviors; owing other people money, etc. Add in the fact that many HSTS, like many AGPs, have serious mental health problems as well as lack of restraint and hair-trigger tempers, and combine this with the disregard many have for other people's boundaries; the jealousies and backbiting that many HSTS persons have towards other persons who are HSTS; their constant need for the "validation" and "gender affirmation" they crave and feel they will die without; and the unfortunate view a good number of TS people of both sexes hold that other people exist on earth mainly to provide them with the "gender affirmation" that the world owes them but cruelly doesn't provide enough of .. and it's no wonder that a lot of people in this population get into a lot of physical fights.

The constant victim narrative that TRAs tell trans people, and which they tell one another, is another factor. People who believe that the world is out to get them, want them dead, and that disagreement = death threat often have chips on their shoulders. Some going out spoiling for a fight and looking for offense. As I've said here before, many unfortunately have learned to see the world through bruise-tinted glasses.

My sense is that the belief that HSTS across the board are all unusually vulnerable to violence from other males might come in part from their own self-perception and fears, which in turn are greatly influenced by their searing memories of the traumatic taunts, bullying and assaults they received in childhood, adolescence and when younger adults.

Also, there's a lot of violence amongst gay males and MLM generally. And amongst adolescent and young males generally regardless of their sexuality and gender presentation. If we go by the murder rates, the rates of homicide suffered by black HSTS in the US seems considerably lower than it is for their same-age, same-nabe, same-economic class male peers. The levels of violence and murder amongst young black males in the US are incredibly high.

FWIW, in the 1990s when I lived in a neighborhood in NYC that had a fair amount of street crime - and quite a few black and Latino HSTS street walkers and hustlers who hung out in groups and committed crimes and menace together - the non-HSTS street toughs, muggers, drug dealers, burglars and such all steered clear of the HSTS because they were seen as unhinged and dangerous. HSTS who are "clockable," as so many are, tend to be given a wide berth by everyone because so many people are afraid of them. That's the kind of "transphobia" that never gets discussed or acknowledged, though.