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[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Next time don't call fellow users monster or similar things, wheter you apologize for it or not.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (25 children)

I’m not going to stop calling men monsters until they stop being , as a group, monsters

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Expect such comments of yours to be deleted from now on then. And better quit with the baseless accussations that we want to harm you, too.

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    [–]BiologyIsReal[M] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Then find a less aggressive way of arguing. Argue against our ideas rather than attack us.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

    So you get to freely insult people based on your feelings but us doing that is an attack borne out of hatred.

    You can think something factually incorrect and judge an entire group based on that, but we are literally violently harming all transwomen everywhere if we use a commonly understood and not personally biased definition of men to refer to them.

    How do you justify yourself?

    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (20 children)

    I’m not advocating harm to men you are advocating harm to trans women. It isn’t the same. Not to mention men are at the pinnacle of the social hierarchy, trans women are at the bottom.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

    I don’t advocate harm and I’ve been over this so many times with you it’s infuriating.

    If I called you a man you’d say it’s only to hurt you and I can’t possibly believe that man=adult male human, it’s really that I hate you deeply and want you to be sad.

    It’s hilarious that you act like you are the only person who’s definitions of words matter, and use that projection to justify the raging hypocrisy of you getting to police our language and us having to tolerate you namecalling because you feel you are correct.

    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (18 children)

    Seriously, maybe it’s my autistic inability to see what I don’t intend but how is comparing two different disorders that stem from unprocessed trauma an attack, an insult, or anything other than a comparison?

    Yes. You do. You insist you don’t the run to hypotheticals and that you shop at a charity shop sometimes. But you are directly advocating for policies that harm trans women. Theoretically maybe some day supporting an alternative doesn’t undo what you are doing.

    If I called you a man you’d say it’s only to hurt you and I can’t possibly believe that man=adult male human, it’s really that I hate you deeply and want you to be sad.

    Frankly yes. But even giving you the benefit of the doubt you are at the minimum knowingly hurting someone, when even though you don’t accept trans people neutral address is an option without “supporting our ideology”. You choose to hurt.

    It’s hilarious that you act like you are the only person who’s definitions of words matter, and use that projection to justify the raging hypocrisy of you getting to police our language and us having to tolerate you namecalling because you feel you are correct.

    The mods are welcome to delete my comments and you are welcome to try to demonstrate I am wrong.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

    Lol, you think anything that isn’t giving what transwomen what they want when they want it is an attack. I’m pretty sure you’d call seeing a shark an attack on you for being trans.

    Interesting you remember the shop but forget how I vote to protect transgender people even though I don’t agree with them. Selective memory sure is nice.

    I am using a totally different definition to you and the insults come from your imagination and what you incorrectly believe about men. Because you never processed abuse from your dad. You’ve made that abundantly clear. A therapist on the moon could see it.

    The mods having mod powers has nothing to do with you being a sexist and a hypocrite. I don’t need to demonstrate that a childhood belief that has not been processed is not factually true for all men. You’d need to prove a single one of the ridiculous claims you make about being the most oppressed, and about your ability to read minds and find thoughts in there that the person isn’t having.

    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (16 children)

    Edit: removed a statement that feels unreasonable .

    about your ability to read minds and find thoughts in there that the person isn’t having.

    Says the person throwing around fictional mental illnesses…

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

    Bpd isn’t fictional lmao. It exists. People live with it and people kill themselves because of how difficult it is but sure I’m making it up and I’m the ableist person here.

    Your choice to not believe me and to comfort yourself with “I’m right about my world view 100% of the time and anything outside it is a lie” is a godawful one but you’re free to choose it if you want.

    What’s the point of you debating if you simply choose to say we are liars as soon as we say something you can’t refute with a slogan or a defense mechanism?

    How do you function in life if you cannot differentiate between “I am diagnosing you with abc” and “one part of what you described shares a similarity to a trait in abc”? If that’s not you strawmanning, you’d not be able to tell the difference between a car and a bus since they share a trait. Cats and dogs? Incomprehensible. Same things because they each have four legs and every difference wasn’t listed as well.

    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (14 children)

    Bpd isn’t fictional lmao. It exists. People live with it and people kill themselves because of how difficult it is but sure I’m making it up and I’m the ableist person here.

    It’s fictional because I don’t have it so the claim I have it / sound like people who do is a fictional claim

    What’s the point of you debating if you simply choose to say we are liars as soon as we say something you can’t refute with a slogan or a defense mechanism?

    Originally I had hoped to draw away from extremes here but that was nieve, now is mostly just emotional self harm and compulsion.