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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Because dysphoria is socially enforced via gender norms. Depression is not.

They may suffer negative effects but those effects are withdrawal from a medically unnecessary drug. It’s closer to detoxing from recreational drugs than it is to a physically needed treatment. That’s the difference I’m trying to get across.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Because dysphoria is socially enforced via gender norms.

I don’t understand this statement. Maybe you are saying dysphoria can’t be because of social aspects, but I don’t think that’s how we judge depression, is it? I feel like it’s wrong to say depression from gender dysphoria isn’t really depression. I’ve never heard anyone say that before.

Totally agree with everything else you said.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It’s depression absolutely, but it’s depression with a recognisable cause. That cause can be treated without drugs.

Organic depression does not have any identifiable cause. There is no causative factor that can be removed or treated.

Gender dysphoria would reasonably not be as severe if we did not as a society turn around and reinvest in old fashioned gender norms and homophobia. If kids who displayed gnc preferences were taught that it’s normal and not a sign of being trans, for example.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don’t know if we know totally what causes gender dysphoria, but I understand what you mean about it being different than depression without a known cause. Thanks for clarifying! I’m glad you weren’t saying it’s not real depression.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh god no, I totally believe it’s an awful thing for anyone to endure and there is likely some biological mechanism causing a predisposition to it.