QT: How is the concept of a "gender identity" not sexist?

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[–]SnowAssMan 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

You say this a lot. Like, you always volunteer this information, unprompted. The lady doth protest too much methinks. I don't know anyone who would insist that if they had to live as the opposite sex they'd have crippling dysphoria & make any & every attempt to change their sex. You can have your agenda without being so patronising about it.

You are not trans, like most of us here, so it's not like you have a unique insight. We are all capable of putting ourselves in the exact same situation you outlined. I personally can safely say, if I woke up tomorrow & I was female I'd hate it, but I'd just deal with it. I wouldn't self-identify as a man & use a masculine name & pronouns. I wouldn't take hormones that would make me go bald & grow a beard nor would I amputate my breasts.

The penis, the height & not having to be female, are the only things worthwhile about being male anyway, but transition can't give you any of those things.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

You say this a lot. Like, you always volunteer this information, unprompted. The lady doth protest too much methinks.

This is my way of explaining gender identity and dysphoria and it's true.

I don't know anyone who would insist that if they had to live as the opposite sex they'd have crippling dysphoria & make any & every attempt to change their sex.

Well now you know someone who does. Also, many trans people themselves say they have crippling dysphoria.

You are not trans, like most of us here, so it's not like you have a unique insight.

A lot of us on this sub are also not trans.

I personally can safely say, if I woke up tomorrow & I was female I'd hate it, but I'd just deal with it. I wouldn't self-identify as a man & use a masculine name & pronouns. I wouldn't take hormones that would make me go bald & grow a beard nor would I amputate my breasts.

That's you. Also, cis men with gynecomastia have surgery to remove their large breasts. Do you call that ?amputation

The penis, the height & not having to be female, are the only things worthwhile about being male anyway, but transition can't give you any of those things.

The only thing you can't change via transition is your height. Trans men can have a penis via SRS.

[–]SnowAssMan 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is my way of explaining gender identity and dysphoria and it's true [...] Well now you know someone who does

No one asked. The more you say it, the less convincing it sounds. It just sounds like someone desperately trying to push an agenda. Everyone can tell how counter-intuitive your supposed reaction to being the opposite sex would be. It sounds so unconvincing, but the trans cult method is to always repeat gibberish indefinitely in the hopes that it'll sound more convincing the more people read/hear it. The reason we are here is because we're immune to that tactic.

cis men with gynecomastia have surgery to remove their large breasts. Do you call that ?amputation

Breasts on a woman aren't incongruous. They certainly aren't due to a condition called "gynecomastia". Only men can have gynecomastia.

Trans men can have a penis via SRS.

Purely cosmetic. When I said having a penis was one of the only things worthwhile about being male, I wasn't taking about the way it looks. There are people who believe that surgeons are magicians. I'm not one of those people.

[–]BiologyIsReal 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Purely cosmetic. When I said having a penis was one of the only things worthwhile about being male, I wasn't taking about the way it looks.

I think it's not even that. Some time ago, there was a post in the GC sub that showed an picture of the "neopenis" of a "trans man". It didn't looked like a penis, like at all.