All: Is autogynephilia normal in natal women?

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[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

You can break everything into binaries and hierarchies but they can be contingent.

It isn't a fact that masculinity is the best that is a subjective judgement.

People can sexually objectify masculinity. Is that a reason to abolish it?

I think attraction to masculinity or femininity is a perfectly natural part of human behaviour. Cultures without gender wouldn't be natural.

All attempts to make cultures without gender fail.

It's true radical feminism often is opposed to femininity as a concept. But the idea never becomes the mainstream idea within feminism because of rejection by women. This carries on not happening. When it carries on not happening you have admit that there might be an error in the theory saying it ought to happen.

Are you admitting there is value in not being so aggressive as the masculine trait often represents? That there is value in agreeableness.

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You can break everything into binaries and hierarchies but they can be contingent.

My point is that they are nether binaries nor hierarchical.

It isn't a fact that masculinity is the best that is a subjective judgement.

When did I say masculinity is objectively the best?

People can sexually objectify masculinity. Is that a reason to abolish it?

That's hypothetical. I've never seen any instance of sexual objectification of masculinity. If someone sexually objectified masculinity once, twice, even thrice, that's not on par with femininity being defined by it.

I think attraction to masculinity or femininity is a perfectly natural part of human behaviour. Cultures without gender wouldn't be natural.

So why aren't children attractive then?

All attempts to make cultures without gender fail.

Everything fails.

Are you admitting there is value in not being so aggressive as the masculine trait often represents? That there is value in agreeableness.

There is value in being working-class & women are the working-class within the nuclear family structure. If you're poor, uneducated & an extravert you probably laugh more often, have a lot more friends & are less neurotic than your middle-class counterparts. There is value in it, not by design, but our culture doesn't value it.

There are ways of getting men to be less aggressive without making them into an easily exploitable doormat like the feminine standard would have them become if they were to ever adopt it fully.