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[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I mean, based on my personal experiences with men, I can't agree with that. That's not my experience with my partner. It's also not my experience growing up with respect to either my father or grandfather. Maybe they're outliers, but surely their existence proves that there are some non-shitty men out there.

[–]adungitit 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Excuse me if I find it hard to swallow that all those not-my-Nigels men are as enlightened as women wish they were, just as I find it hard to swallow that all the people saying they're "not sexist" really aren't sexist.

[–]worried19 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But why is the default reaction to doubt people who say they have had good experiences? Surely if some women have positive experiences with men, that's a good thing.

I know my partner intimately. I only know my dad and grandpa in family contexts, so I admit there could be something there I'm not aware of. But in family settings at least, they have never treated my mom or grandma in subhuman, misogynistic ways. Not once. I would lose all respect for them if they had.