GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men?

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

But it’s been explained to you that for others, privacy is absolutely a sex segregated thing. You disagreeing with it doesn’t make others wrong or their needs disappear. Stalls will not help preventing cameras planted by men. Stalls will not stop creepy conversations. Stalls can be blocked by stronger male bodies and now the assault is happening in a locked space.

Stalls do not solve anything other than the “problem” of males lacking access to women’s spaces. Calling the males women does nothing to change this.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 8 fun -  (5 children)

But it’s been explained to you that for others, privacy is absolutely a sex segregated thing.

Everyone views privacy differently. I personally feel privacy when only fat brunette people can see me change. Are we going to start segregating people by weight now?

Stalls will not help preventing cameras planted by men.

You're right. Prosecution is the only thing that will stop men from implanting cameras.

Stalls can be blocked by stronger male bodies and now the assault is happening in a locked space.

I support cameras in common areas of the bathrooms (except for the stalls). Anyone who assaults anyone, physically, sexually or whatever will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Anyone who assaults anyone, physically, sexually or whatever will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

This is not just naive, it's total gaslighting. Most sex assaults and other kinds of physical assaults do not result in investigation, much less prosecution "to the full extent of the law."

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

This is not just naive, it's total gaslighting.

This is not gaslighting.

Most sex assaults and other kinds of physical assaults do not result in investigation, much less prosecution "to the full extent of the law."

That is certainly an issue that needs to be addressed on it's own merits.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

People are often not prosecuted at all, let alone to the full extent of the law. Saying it will happen is untrue. Saying something untrue is true can be considered gaslighting by all means.

Why is safeguarding and prevention such an offence? How does prosecution relate to prevention?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

People are often not prosecuted at all, let alone to the full extent of the law. Saying it will happen is untrue. Saying something untrue is true can be considered gaslighting by all means.

Gaslighting is manipulating someone by psychological means into questioning their own sanity. By your logic, every white lie can be considered gaslighting.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You’re trying to convince people that prosecution is prevention, and that prosecution will always happen to the full extent.

You are trying to convince people that reality is not what we see, read, and hear, and otherwise experience, but what you think is happening or will happen based on absolutely nothing, in order to get them to support your wants.

You gonna answer any of my other posts asking you questions again and just focus on nit picking word games? Boring.