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[–]wokuspokus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1) GC, as I believe sex us immutable and gender is a social construct that harms both men and women. 2) I was quietly supportive of QT having not read a thing apart from that ‘TERFs are Nazis’ and hadn’t really thought about it. Guess I fully subscribed to ‘be nice’. Saw some tweets about TW in women’s sport, thought ‘What the fresh hell?’, peaked pretty hard and now am very GC.

3)Man: An adult human who underwent the developmental pathway in the womb to have the biological structures evolved to produce sperm.

Woman: An adult human who underwent the developmental pathway in the womb to have the biological structures evolved to produce eggs.

4) Simply, transwoman are men; transmen are women. TW are men presenting as women, TM are women presenting as men. I think trans is due to the harmful idea of gender with homophobia mixed in. If society just accepted people as themselves instead of forcing them to be masculine or feminine we wouldn’t have this mess.

5) Cis makes us a subset of ‘women’. I get a ‘move over for the superior type of woman’ vibe. Hate the term. Natal and biological I use when I need to clarify I don’t mean trans (usually natal as it’s shorter). I’d rather just use ‘women’ for natal women and transmen and ‘men’ for natal men and transwomen but that isn’t clear usually in this debate.

6) My view in this is complex. In competitive or full contact sport: men, transwomen (both biological males) and transmen (equivalent to women on T) compete together. Women compete against women. In the case of a transman who DOES NOT take T (so a natal woman who identifies as a man but does not make any changes to her body)- they compete with women. My view on non-contact, non-competitive sport (this includes training for a team who play in a league) it’s up to the individual people. I.e. a women’s football team that is in a league. To me, a transwoman would be okay to train with us, provided all club members are comfortable (this question would have to be asked anonymously) but not okay to play in league matches. My reasoning for this is that sport is good for mental health and no-one loses out because of the transwoman’s presence.

7) Using pronouns that don’t align with someone’s self-defined gender. I’m really caught between the lines here. I absolutely subscribe to the ‘pronouns are Rohypnol’ school of thought. If I’m communicating with people I know are GC, I will sex people correctly. I cannot bring myself to lie- I will not say a man is a woman or vv. This means I use ‘they’ for trans people a lot- I’m a uni student, known GCers are very few and far between, so most company is assumed to be QT until found to be otherwise. I find wokes accept this as ‘I’m not sure which pronoun this person likes so I will try not to offend’ and you get away with it. One told the preferred pronoun this could definitely ‘out’ me as GC, but I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it.

8) Gender is stereotypes that harm both men and women. Sex is male or female, determined by the biological structures you possess and what gametes they evolved to produce.

9) I know a shitload of QT (I’m at university, they’re everywhere). They’re friends (I’m not out GC, and intend to keep it that way until I have to out myself).

10) My friends (except for some close friends) don’t know I’m GC. Those close friends- one of them sarcastically said something ‘rather terfy’, so I outed myself in confidence. But they know to keep quiet and doubly so to not out me (they’re both male and are aware that GC women are treated much worse than GC men).

11) I’d say more neither. They don’t believe gender is a spectrum or in self ID só not QT at all. They still subscribe to the concept of ‘gender’ however so they cannot be GC. I think they’re a third ideology in this debate. They align more closely with GC, but their beliefs are distinctly different. Being anti-QT does not make you GC, it means our ideals have some alignment.

12) Probably that we don’t think transwomen are predators.

Extras: Bi, British, natal woman. Kinda shared my beterfening in Q2.