Ok, it's time to update the rules

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[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

It was discussed on the old site briefly. It didn’t seem like many QT people thought it was a compromise at the time either. I think maybe it was something one of the Mods suggested when the old sub was created or something? It was a while ago.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Idk I was only there for about 8-10 months before it got shit down, and I didn’t I wow what term to use so I asked and I was told that qt said to use natal female/male. I don’t like the term, so I never used it, I just always use transwoman/transman or male/female

But if we have need of another option, qt would have to speak up about what works for them otherwise all gc can do is guess. I’m not fully understanding why we need terms besides transwoman/transman, male/female, man/woman? But if others need other terms we still need qt to speak up so we can figure out what terms to use

Eta- apparently my phone autocorrects “shut” to “shit”

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah I don’t see a point to such terms either. If calling trans women male is allowed then just use that, calling us trans natal male or even TiM seems like extra steps with no real benefit to QT. Maybe the transmedicalists or GC friendly trans people feel differently, idk.

I remember you from the old sub, you told me the sex spectrum was a silly idea there as well if I’m not mistaken.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It’s very likely that I did, I stand by that statement lol

I have a lot of reasons why I think it’s silly, but I don’t think this is the post for that

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Of course

[–]BiologyIsReal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I never liked the trans natal male or female thing to be honest. I've only used it because it was recommended in the rules and I wanted to make clear to what sex I was talking about.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

It just seems like extra steps that don’t really benefit either side.

[–]BiologyIsReal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I can see it now, but I joined the sub about 2 months ago and I though QT have accepted it as a compromise.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe some do, but I don’t understand why. Perhaps the transmedicalists like it?

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think trans male or trans female can work somewhat. I used to say “trans male” in my flair, but many people would think I meant I was a transman. Natal can make it clear it’s at birth for people who think sex can change, but it’s always sort incorrect for how most of us see it. I’d love to hear a term that everyone would like, but I’m not sure if it exists.

[–]BiologyIsReal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I used to say “trans male” in my flair, but many people would think I meant I was a transman.

That is the kind of confusion I wanted to avoid by using "natal" even if it sounds pretty awkward to me. I'm afraid I don't know what term could satisfy everyone, either.