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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

LMFAO!!!

Yeah... Your comment is the shit we are talking about. You just prove my point. Women don’t oppress you, we just want you to stay the fuck away from us. You, like all males, oppress us. You actually may be worse than other men because at least other men stay away from our spaces and sports and don’t try to take our rights for themselves.

Those aren’t your spaces, because you’re not a woman, you’re a man. If you don’t like my comment you’re free to fucking report it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

I’m sorry you feel that way sir, but I’m afraid the law disagrees with you. Now please be a good chap and go huff some paint. I dare say it should clear your head a bit

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Oh god no! you called me sir. The violence. THE LITERAL VIOLENCE!!!!

I don’t know why you keep doing that to women who disagree with you. The people you do it to aren’t mentally ill, so it doesn’t trigger us or hurt us. The fact that you think it would bother us is actually quite hilarious.

Can’t huff any paint for a few more months, sorry. I’m pregnant, you see, (something you’ll never get to experience, unfortunately) and that’s just not good for the baby.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

My good lad, I would never be so Frankenstein like as to bring a child into this world for my own gratification especially given the number of kids needing to be adopted, the very idea seems so profoundly narcissistic as to make me want to gag. Still though have fun having a child who demographically is probably going to consider you a bigot. Cross your cis fingers I guess, eh.

Also wow a cis person saying “you can’t get pregnant” to a trans woman. I bet that’s about as rare as a black person hearing racist shit. My feewings are so hurt 😂

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lmao you posted about uterus transplants for transwomen and kept making hopeful comments about the possibility, but now because you can’t think of a retort, you’re acting like it’s not something you want.

Still though, approval rates for the entire LGBT have dropped due solely to the T, so it’s likely that my son and unborn child won’t in fact see me as a bigot, but will see you as a man.

And I don’t give a fuck about your feelings to care if they are hurt or not, but your comments make it pretty obvious that they are.

[–]AlexisK 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, classic DARVO and direct personal attacks.

/s/GCdebatesQT now looks like trolling circlejerk.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I care about them because I believe they’ll be the death knell to your ideology when they occur, not because I want one myself. I decided long ago that creating a being just because you can is monstrous, especially when so many children need parents. Since I was a child I knew that I wanted to adopt.

Keep telling yourself that when your child thinks you’re a bigot. 50% approval and up among millennials and gen z 😎

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This isn’t helping.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I know that, I just can’t stand them anymore

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Cis oppressor say what? Have fun being in a world where the law says you’re wrong

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Okay.

Have fun being in a world where you’re a man who hates women so much that you invade their spaces. That male privilege must feel incredible.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Have fun being in a world where you’ll get fired for expressing your bigotry in public and your friends and family consider you an embarrassment at dinner parties. And yeah I’ll be enjoying the use of my spaces thanks dude

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Lmao I’m overbooked and most people know I’m gc.

My family and friends all agree with me.

And I guess good for you that you’ll continue to make women and girls feel uncomfortable, that you’ll invade their spaces and strip them of their rights. I don’t know why you keep mentioning that, like we don’t already know you’re an invader lol

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Segregationists never win bro, regardless of what you’re bigoted family thinks. From a demographic perspective though I doubt they all agree with you sir

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don’t know why you think most people disagree with me, but go ahead and cling to that. You seem to need to.

And there’s a huge difference between sex based spaces and racial segregation. You may win for a short time, but you and a few other qt have shown me that in due time, you all expose yourselves as mentally unstable misogynists, so I’m sure more women will come to see you for what you really are, and we’ll take back our rights and spaces. Approval rates are dropping, “trans rights” are precarious atm. People are peaking allover- and it’s directly because of trans people themselves, you’re doing our work for us. Thanks

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sex-segregation was done as inclusive measure - to include women into social life and sports. While race segregation was the opposite - to exclude black people from social life. Sex segregated sports and spaces are existing as inclusive measure.

And it is opposite even in classes of people - sex-segregation is needed for women, oppressed class. And men taking it away is oppressors taking away inclusion for women - or excluding women from social life and sports. So it is opposite to race segregation.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. I think it’s astonishing that they don’t understand the difference.

I get it if they were to say they know it’s a female space but they just feel safer invading it, but to act like we’re segregationists for wanting to maintain our rights is so misogynistic and insulting to poc who actually experienced segregation.

[–]MarkTwainiac 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

Sex-segregation was done as inclusive measure - to include women into social life and sports. While race segregation was the opposite - to exclude black people from social life

Actually, sex-segregation was originally done as an exclusive measure - namely, to make & keep institutions and most of the public sphere for males only, and to keep girls & women confined mainly at home, in domestic work, in harems & brothels, or to their own section in synagogues, mosques and other houses of worship.

Sex-segregation was also instituted as a way of shaming, ostracizing or separating women from the rest of the world & normal life when undergoing specific processes of female biology - hence, menstrual huts, women being forbidden from cooking or preparing food when menstruating, and forcing women into long periods of "confinement" before & after giving birth.

In much of the world, sex segregation has been accomplished via laws and customs that kept women mostly at home, forbade them from attending school, restricted their access to transport, required them to be accompanied by male chaperones outside the home and to cover their heads and bodies whenever in public. Items of clothing like burquas and the head-to-toe chadors that girls & women in Iran were forced to wear after the 1979 Islamic revolution are basically portable cloth prisons meant to identify, stigmatize, segregate, isolate, physically discomfort and encumber girls & women as much as possible when outside the home.

As these examples illustrate, sex segregation be can be used as much to oppress as to help liberate women and insure our safety, dignity & privacy. Sex-segregation itself is not inherently a benefit or a drawback. Its impact varies depending on the specific reasoning behind it, circumstances surrounding it, & how it's implemented.

In the West, when schools, workplaces, major institutions & the public sphere gradually started opening up to girls & women, additional facilities for females like loos, waiting rooms and train cars were added to the already-existing ones long in use exclusively by males. But the reasoning when this happened wasn't always or necessarily to provide girls & women with safety, privacy, dignity and fairness - it was to keep girls & women out of the many male-only spaces that males wanted to remain male-only, such as the smoking & bar cars on trains, institutions of higher learning, certain professions, social clubs and entertainment venues.

Fact is, even after the world outside the home began to open up to girls & women, boys & men didn't want female people in their toilets, locker rooms, clubs, smoking lounges, sports venues, fraternities, grills, saloons, pool halls etc except as servers, cleaners, cooks and when working in some capacity to entertain and sexually service men.

Over time, women realized and articulated all the various ways that certain kinds of sex-segregated spaces in specific circumstances can and do benefit girls & women. As a result, over time women lobbied for & built a lot of female-only spaces - ranging from women's only schools & universities, women's loos & lounges, women's social clubs, women's hospital wards & entire hospitals, women's organizations, and in the 1960s & 70s, rape refuges and shelters for women escaping male domestic violence.

But when sex-segregation originated, & through much of its history even in the contemporary era, it was put into place & maintained because it's what men & boys wanted.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Actually, sex-segregation was originally done as an exclusive measure - namely, to make & keep institutions and most of the public sphere for males only, and to keep girls & women confined mainly at home, in domestic work, in harems & brothels, or to their own section in synagogues, mosques and other houses of worship.

That is not "male and female bathrooms", that is "male bathrooms and no other ones". Which is not really what is meant when talking about sex-segregation. And taking away female-only spaces is returning to that version of "sex-segregation" that you are talking about, but now with "male spaces and everyone else's spaces which is dangerous to marginalized groups".

I understand that technically "males were allowed to have their own spaces and females weren't allowed to have their own spaces" - is technically sex segregation too, but it is pretty pedantic view and not the point of discussion.

[–]just_lesbian_things 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have fun being in a world where you’ll get fired for expressing your bigotry in public and your friends and family consider you an embarrassment at dinner parties.

Sounds word for word what homophobes, racists, and misogynists have said to me to try and shame/intimiate me into falling in line with the status quo.