QT: questions about transphobia (But gc feel free to add questions)

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[–]a_green_squidtransmed i guess? 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (42 children)

I'm not going to debate someone debating something wholly irrelevant. You can try and debate me in any number of topics that don't matter. If I start trying to ask why radfems want to murder trans babies and their parents are you going to give me any shred of dignity and respond?

Cosmetic procedures aren't harmful, they just aren't fit for minors. You're the one saying they are harmful in the first place.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (40 children)

So no you definitely can’t draw the obvious comparison, or debate anyone who challenges you. Thanks for confirming.

Osteoporosis causing meds to prepare for future surgery aren’t quite irrelevant to cosmetic procedures being harmful. Puberty blockers provide a cosmetic changes by not allowing the body to develop. It’s not like they’re using them as an antidepressant.

Reddit is full of subs where you won’t be disagreed with and need to announce your plan to ignore every user who responds to you.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (39 children)

“Murder trans babies”

Wow lmao what a fucking reach

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (38 children)

GC Murder trans babies but I’m being too ridiculous to debate lmao.

Dangerous drugs used for cosmetic effects in preparation for future cosmetic surgery being compared to cosmetic surgery alone is incomprehensible, and I’m the idiot here.

How does anyone take these arguments so seriously that they pretend sex doesn’t exist? My nieces gave better during their tantrums.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

I feel like a whole lot of sub rules are being broken, and I wish we could have some type of post discussing the rules and what constitutes breaking them. Because just in this post we’ve/a I’ve been called or compared to a bigot, told to fuck off, and I can’t imagine that the leap to us now being murderers because we oppose puberty blockers being given to people not old enough to give consent to them is not somehow flaming? Again, we’re gc so I guess whatever is said to or about us is okay, but I do think we need some type of transparent discussion about the rules.

I know I’d personally love to discuss the “no misogyny” rule.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

I have zero faith in porcelain quetzal as a mod ever since they told me I’m free to take a break from masks during the ‘morally obliged to help your rapist’ debacle.

I don’t think much moderation really happens. I was told to correct misgendering on my old account but qt are free to call us all cis bigot nazi terf monsters who can fuck off. Either this is a space for debate and feminism or it’s yet another qt safe space where gender rules. A discussion and all the mods, not just peaking, need to decide what rules are enforced and what rules are just for show.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (35 children)

Agreed.

Eta- also, either I or adungitit got called an asshole, that’s gotta be up there with breaking the flaming rule

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (34 children)

There’s stupid amounts of namecalling that qt gets to freely drop. Wonder if the weekly off topic thread is something anyone gets to post or mod only. I’m bringing it up next time we have one.

[–]Greensquidsphone 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (33 children)

Made the mistake of looking at the thread on my break. Made an account on my phone because jesus you both need help.

To both of you. I said murder trans babies as a hypothetical debate topic that you would ignore and not debate, because it holds no ground and has no factual proof. Looking at it i guess that isnt as clear as it should have been. Esl problems, but i digress, thank you for proving my point and thinking I was actually trying debate the point and saying it was too stupid to argue against.

To Sloane. Get over yourself, i called you an asshole, you told me it was my friends fault for being trans that her mother was emotionally abusive. I will take a ban for rulebreaking with pride if they do the same for you for victim blaming (also in the rules). They won't, because the moderation is just as biased as it was before, but thats where it is. As for your one singular study you can give me (but didn't), what. Am I supposed to be proud of you? Here is one single study proving that women are dumber than men. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289606000250. It took me forever to find, and i only found it by reading another person debunking it, but it exists, therefore it must be true.

To houseplant, osteoporosis huh? And you have scientific evidence backing this up, or is this just something you read in that one BBC article? We know bmd doesnt increase on puberty blockers. We also know it DOES increase to normal levels when we switch from them to csht. Ill link you studies if you want when I get home, otherwise I hope you have a wonderful night.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

That’s a lot of effort to go to for people you’re ignoring.

Your murder trans babies comment not being a real accusation wasn’t missed at all. You merely misunderstood the criticism it got.

Stop calling people assholes. If you can’t control yourself even that little bit, why should anyone give you time or effort?

Since you can’t google ‘Lupron and osteoporosis’

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3047394/

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2012/020011s040lbl.pdf

There are hundreds more for other drugs used in halting children’s puberty. Do you not have google?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Literally didn’t say it was your friend’s fault for being trans. Get your head out of your ass and learn some reading comprehension skills. What I said was it seems more likely, based on your phrasing, that your friend is manipulative and that your anecdote doesn’t make sense.

Why would I link studies (yes plural, I never mentioned “one single study”) AFTER YOU BLOCKED ME? Who would I be sending them to? I didn’t know you were so pathetic that you’d make an alt to reply to someone that you’d already blocked, so since I assumed you’d blocked me, I assumed our interactions were done. It’s so funny that you’d spend your time looking for the study you just linked, and would take the time to make an alt, read the threads of the people you blocked, make a poor attempt at insult, but I’m the asshole?

Hope you’re not too upset that the article saying you’re smarter than u/houseplant and I was debunked, unlike the many recent studies that you don’t have to desperately scroll to find that prove that blockers are harmful to children.

You’re boring to debate and not good at talking shit so you’re kind of useless as a sparring partner. Won’t be blocking you as you don’t matter enough to me for me to need to, but also won’t waste my time on you.

[–]adungitit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I start trying to ask why radfems want to murder trans babies

That's literally the level of argumentation that QT brings to the table, though? And GC still respond, and QT usually either cannot respond, or they start complaining because they didn't parrot "transwomen are women" fast enough.