QT: A question of ideology

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[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

So is the rapist supposed to ice the vagina/anus of the person they raped and bandage any scraps from any fighting off?

Are you serious?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Well they are already morally failing because they are committing rape, but they have a moral imperative to ameliorate the harm they created as well. Morally they should turn themselves in so they don’t cause further harm and ensure that she doesn’t see them again to prevent trauma. They wouldn’t do that but they are also immoral anyway.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

I don’t think I can talk to you anymore, at least not right now. This is fucking disgusting.

Anyone who has been attacked knows to get the fuck away as fast as they can. It’s so incredibly fucked up to call someone immoral for protecting themselves and getting away from a dangerous situation.

You need some serious help. I say this with no snark and no intent to be rude or hurtful- please get help. ASAP. Like I’d pay for it myself if it didn’t mean doxing myself.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

This isn’t just because I don’t like masks, I honestly think they need to be banned permanently for this level of rape apology/rapist support.

There’s the usual tra misogyny, but this is a whole other level of hating women.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I was thinking the same thing. I usually am fine or just mildly annoyed but this makes me really uncomfortable. I don’t know how I could engage with them after this. It’s too much.

But masks got banned when masks was masks (I believe for rape apologia but I could be wrong) and came back as Void so it may not do much.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I asked the mods to take a look and let me know if I’m just being over zealous or picking on them. I’m genuinely frightened by the attitude and ideas tho. I’ve never asked for a ban or inquiry for something that was just annoying or gross either, so I reckon it’s the right call.

The ban evasions must be heaps to handle. Unpleasant work indeed.

EDIT: apparently this is not rape apology or even close. Leaving the community if that’s the case. Bye y’all!!

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

If masks isn’t banned for this shit I may have to block them. I can’t believe this conversation. And I can’t believe I’m being told I’m morally reprehensible for not being willing to stay and tend to someone who raped me. It’s a fucking insane and terrifying level of misogyny disguised as concern for human life.

I have been stunned many times by things that Masks has said. But this is by far the worst to me.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It’s amazing. I am morally reprehensible apparently, because I broke my rapists nose and kicked him in the kidneys and ran away. What an amoral 15 year old girl I was! Getting myself help and not getting him help whilst in shock.

The fact that this extremely sick person is able to freely speak to survivors is horrifying. Gonna be leaving the sub for a bit until I find out if he’s banned or not.

Truly hurt by a man saying I wasn’t acting morally after my own rape.masks is Certainly acting exactly as masks believes men behave.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I’m so sorry! It’s best to walk away from masks masks will never see the issues with what they say.

You did nothing wrong when you defended yourself and imo the man who violated you deserves much worse.

I’m a message away if you need to talk

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gods you’re a fantastic human. Thankyou.

Masks will never understand but I’m sure is jumping at the bit to call me and all other women alive or dead a bad person for some bizarre reason or other. Hopefully they never face a situation where it’s get violent or suffer violence cause they can’t morally defend themselves. Least I’m lucky and know I can fight for my life.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That’s awful. I’m so sorry!

No one owes rapists shit. You did the right thing. He deserved worse imo.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thankyou!

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No bans, apparently nothing masks said is out of line. Taking my leave from the community after mod decision.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Wow. I’m not surprised. Disappointed but not surprised.

Insensitivity towards rape victims, either hypothetical or real is okay? Telling a victim they are morally obligated to take care of someone who was actively harming and violating them is okay? That’s fucking insane and the mods should be ashamed.

Mods- at the very least Masks should have to fucking apologize or you should say something to address why it’s acceptable.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mods- you say “no misogyny” but allow males to reduce females to stereotypes and outward appearance every day?

You say no misgendering, but allow QT to call us “cis” knowing we hate it?

You say not to use the word “terf” and tell us to edit when we say “tim/tif” yet “terf” is used pretty often here lately?

You say no rape apologia, but let someone try to guilt rape victims over being unwilling to come to the aid of the person who raped them?

Can you explain?

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nothing much to be done apparently. Masks wasn’t out of line. Dunno if it’s just porcelains call or all the mods but yeah. Either way, I’m not hanging out anywhere where men can say this sort of thing unchallenged or even supported.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Calling 911 once you run isn’t endangering yourself at all. But still light save a life. How is that objectionable to you. I’ve been attacked, by a group no less. I still would have called 911 if I’d hurt one of them.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I literally said I’d call the cops. After I ran away. Thing is, according to you that’s still immoral because the rapist could bleed out before the cops come so the victim immoral for running away or in danger for staying.

A life is a life but if someone is raping people and gets harmed in the process I don’t feel particularly bad for them. Don’t ever talk to rape survivors please. Stay far the fuck away from them.

And get some help. Seriously.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I literally said I’d call the cops. After I ran away.

That’s literally all I said you would need to do. Since it’s still ameliorating the harm.