GC: Do you genuinely desire to have more trans men in public positions (i.e. acting, politics)?

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[–]MezozoicGaygay male 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you are talking about recent ones, then the reason there was not because they are trans, reason was because in places where "one spot for man and one for woman" - they took 20 women places (actually 22), out of the women who could take those places and represent women views and problems. Even if consider that transwomen are women, they are still big minority and they do not have majority of experiences and problems that women have. Transwomen's and women's problems and needs are not intersectional - there very few points of connection. So losing women's places to transwomen is not good for women in general and that is why GC are mad on this.

[–]worried19 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh yeah, I wasn't familiar with that. I was talking about the American election. Several trans candidates won their races fair and square.

[–]MezozoicGaygay male 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Most famous from them is that one from New York year ago, who took 2 spots out of 2 women of color, and took "female leadership" position in NYC Democratic Council. And he "became a woman" right before first elections few years ago (lost a spot back then, but next time won spot), who have erection almost all the time on public: https://i.imgur.com/CQ3FwuD.png and now represents women needs and problems.

If you mean about senators (or how those positions are called), then it still shows power distribution same as men vs women, even after transition - 20 transwomen and 1 transman were elected. That was GC complain as well, that (most, as some have it other way around) transwomen are still holding most male privileges and male socialization even after transition and are overrepresented.

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it still shows power distribution same as men vs women, even after transition - 20 transwomen and 1 transman were elected.

That's true. Lifelong privilege and socialization doesn't go away just because someone changes their identification. We should point out the disparity because this is not a win for sex equality. However, that doesn't mean that the people who were elected fair and square shouldn't have won their seats. Some posters on Ovarit seemed pissed off by the very fact that trans people had been elected. This is the kind of stuff that gets us tagged as bigots. It shouldn't matter if they're transgender or not. We should judge them the same as we would any other politician.