Does GC feminism include trans men?

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[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Some lesbians are attracted to trans women, even if they have a penis. Is this a problem?

29% of lesbians include trans women in their dating pool, and they’re still lesbian.

Nope they become gay men, and lesbians become straight.

The level of conversion therapy is insane. Even conservatives weren't as homophobic, lol. Maybe only in Iran.

And "your sexuality depends on someone else" is just golden. From where is 29% number btw?

I don't think I want to continue discussion on this topic, as it hurts (if only anyone was actually thinking about lesbian women feelings, eh).

I have personally been attracted to passing trans men.

In bed, sexually? And you was all wet when seeing pussy? (Edit: Oh, sorry, I actually assumed you are female/woman, maybe you aren't, now I am confused)

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The level of conversion therapy is insane. Even conservatives weren't as homophobic, lol. Maybe only in Iran.

Lol who is converting you? No one is forcing you to become bi or straight.

And "your sexuality depends on someone else" is just golden. From where is 29% number btw?

This study.

In bed, sexually? And you was all wet when seeing pussy? (Edit: Oh, sorry, I actually assumed you are female/woman, maybe you aren't, now I am confused)

I am a woman who was born female. I am straight. I am attracted to cis men and passing trans men. For me to do something sexually with their genitals they have to be post-op otherwise I'm still willing to do sexual things that don't involve their genitals. I'm not attracted to cis women and passing trans women.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is just asking around, asked 1000 people, half of which were men and half women, part of which were bisexual, part gay men, part lesbian women, part queer (whatever that means). So it isn't that many people. And questions "who would you rather date" is not "are you attracted to X?". I thought there was some serious research, or at least proper questions.

For example, 50% of the trans-inclusive straight women and 28% of the trans-inclusive gay men were willing to date a trans woman, even though one wouldn’t expect either straight women or gay men to be attracted to women. Similarly, 50% of trans-inclusive straight men and 69% of trans-inclusive lesbians said they’d date a trans man, even though both groups are presumably only attracted to women.

Not surprising at all :D

I am straight. I am attracted to cis men and passing trans men. For me to do something sexually with their genitals they have to be post-op otherwise I'm still willing to do sexual things that don't involve their genitals.

And that is expected as well. I know cases when men were aroused by looking at someone with long hair from behind - and when that person turning around and revealing it is just masculine guy, just with good hair, then those men were instantly stopping being aroused. It is normal behaviour. And when judging just by the looks I can like the looks of a man too, and recognize if man is attractive to other women or not, but I will never be aroused by one.