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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

OP has said it themselves that some of the things we say indeed happen.

I did say some trans men do transition due to misogyny, as some detransitioned women attested on the former r/gendercritical. However, the majority of trans men transition due to legit dysphoria. GC likes to imply the majority of trans men transition due to misogyny, which isn't the case. In that case GC is speaking over trans men.

[–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And as I already said, they are free to ignore us and move on with their life. Nobody is forcing them to join us or like us.

[–]divingrightintowork 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What do you base these numbers off of? I'm not saying your wrong but it's just a claim that should have some substantiation, including rates and reasons for detransitioners as well as transitioners.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/media-s-detransition-narrative-fueling-misconceptions-trans-advocates-say-n1102686

In a 2015 survey of nearly 28,000 people conducted by the U.S.-based National Center for Transgender Equality, only 8 percent of respondents reported detransitioning, and 62 percent of those people said they only detransitioned temporarily. The most common reason for detransitioning, according to the survey, was pressure from a parent, while only 0.4 percent of respondents said they detransitioned after realizing transitioning wasn’t right for them.

https://medium.com/@sethkatz.art/feminist-trans-men-the-narrative-of-internalized-misogyny-9628e0488c13

Apparently, the idea is that our nonbinary or transmasculine identities are based in either trauma or internalized misogyny; both that can be overcome. Yes, as a trans man I have understandably separated myself from my identity as a “woman,” but this isn’t because I hate women or womanhood. It isn’t because of some trauma I faced while socialized as a woman that I’m struggling to escape. It isn’t a desperate attempt to flee structural misogyny. As obvious as it sounds, I transitioned simply because I am a man.

I don’t want to oversimplify a concept so nuanced and complex, but when it comes down to it, I identify as a man because I am one. The idea of my gender stemming from internalized misogyny seems ridiculous to me because not only am I a man, but I’m also a feminist ally. The two don’t have to be, nor should they be, mutually exclusive.

https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/07/03/the-idea-that-trans-men-are-lesbians-in-denial-is-demeaning-and-wrong

The idea that trans men are “lesbians in denial” is demeaning and wrong