Trans people: Do you feel welcomed by the current trans movement?

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Why or why not?

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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don’t really feel welcomed by the current trans movement. Like, my personal history by itself would be welcomed and, in many ways, is what the trans movement wants people to focus on, but I don’t think my beliefs would be welcomed.

Edit: I wanted to elaborate a little. I feel like I’m against most of what the trans movement is about now. I don’t like what is happening with redefining words. There is nothing transphobic about being honest about biological sex and differences that exist because of it. I also am really against their attitude towards childhood transition. Children should have the opportunity to grow up (or at least be teenagers if it’s been there a long time) before being given life altering, sterilizing medical treatments. We shouldn’t be celebrating transition at all because it isn’t an ideal outcome (it should be the last resort when nothing else helps). Also, I’m very worried about the idea that self-ID should be all the matters for access to spaces. I feel like it puts women in danger, including transsexuals like myself.

[–]catoborosnonbinary 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think access to women's spaces should be determined by living full time as a woman or feminine person; identity alone is not enough. Self-ID becomes a non-issue if applied only to identity documents. We do not have guards outside bathrooms checking identity documents.

I agree entirely with your aversion to those who claim to have authoritative new meanings for words. They are attempting to control thought by controlling language. Trans activists do not want to hear honest opinions: they want ideological compliance.

[–]catoborosnonbinary 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel welcomed by the trans community in general, but my opinions often attract hostile responses from trans ideologues, and even threats.

  • I believe that sex is binary and immutable; some trans people change sex characteristics.
  • I support freedom of speech, like to hear opinions that differ from mine, and oppose deplatforming.
  • I do not accept or provide validation.

I have been called a TERF, and told that my views on the binary and immutable nature of sex reflect internalised transphobia. The worst hostility I have received is from other nonbinary people, especially "they/them+antifascist" types. Most trans people are chill. The nasty ones self-identify as community leaders and give the rest of us a bad name.

[–]transwomanHesitantly QT? 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel welcomed so long as I don't comment on behavior in the trans community that I find concerning.

I commented on a post on r/MtF where I said that trans women should just be themselves rather than use performative femininity (and sexist stereotypes) to validate themselves. I then proceeded to get downvoted for it.

Like I can't say "just be yourself, live authentically" now? It's a mess.

[–]Porcelain_QuetzalTabby without Ears 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly yes. Sure I disagree with them on some stuff, like when you should transition, but I try to express that opinions in a polite way and haven't yet encountered major opposition.

[–]HeyItsAquariusTranssexual (natal male) 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel welcomed by the trans movement, but I'm currently peaking so I left the community. There's a lot of BS that goes on, like people supporting Self ID.