Why is GC critical of how women celebrate their sexuality?

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[–]anfd 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Probably because some of the ways some women choose to celebrate their sexuality is, at the same time, pandering to male fantasies, reinforcing harmful stereotypes etc. The tension here between "the freedom to choose" and "to choose freely something that's harmful to others" is real and there is no logical solutions, only ones that are decided in political struggle.

The situation is not unlike the one in the labour movement, where the strikers want to prevent some individuals — called either "those willing to work", or "scabs", depending on your political views — from crossing the picket line.

Actually, it's not unlike any other conflict of interest between the individual and the group. Some will think individual choice must rule over everything else (provided the choice "doesn't harm others", where, though, the the meaning of "harm" is not at all clear), while some will think the collective has the right to limit the individual in severe ways for the benefit of the majority. And of course there's the whole gamut between these two extremes.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

pandering to male fantasies

To me that's like saying short shorts distract boys, or asking about a rape victim "what was she wearing?"

Actually, it's not unlike any other conflict of interest between the individual and the group. Some will think individual choice must rule over everything else (provided the choice "doesn't harm others", where, though, the the meaning of "harm" is not at all clear), while some will think the collective has the right to limit the individual in severe ways for the benefit of the majority. And of course there's the whole gamut between these two extremes.

I make choices for myself, not for others. My family for instance is not happy with my a choice in significant other, but I'm making the choice, and should be able to freely express her sexuality.

[–]comradeconradical 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I make choices for myself, not for others"

This is so easy to say when you ignore the larger impact certain choices perpetuate.

Obviously it's important to make choices for yourself, but don't pretend that all choices are wholly good and unarguable.

Further, yes we can say let everyone make their own choices, but we can still critically analyze these choices. We don't choose things in a vacuum.