Both: Is socialization always binary?

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[–]DistantGlimmer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That is scary. Do you think it is a social contagion? Or just thinking they can opt out of womanhood and misogyny?

[–]worried19 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Social contagion for sure. I think it's gotten so bad because the culture is increasingly hostile and misogynistic. This is the first generation of girls who have been raised on hardcore, extremely violent Internet pornography. Liberal feminists encourage girls and young women to pornify and subjugate themselves for men. They also tell kids that not "feeling like" a girl means you're not a girl, and being trans is cool. Being a straight girl is not cool. It means you're a victim. Being a lesbian is certainly not cool.

Given the environment, why wouldn't a girl want to opt out if she could? Everyone hates women, even the President of the United States. We live in a rape culture. There's nothing to look forward to if you're born female in a world like this.

[–]DistantGlimmer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree. .I was listening to this interview with a feminist recently : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URpIHX8LrCQ

and she made very similar points about how the internet has made it so much harder for young girls growing up today because everything is so pornified and how trans ideology is playing into that. It made me very sad and hopeless to listen to. I don't even know what we do about it other than working to get rid of porn but that is such an uphill battle.

If it was just a question of them saying they're NB that would be relatively harmless but the physical aspects of it make it horrible to even think about, all these young girls permanently damaging their bodies with help of the medical industry.

[–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Non-binary isn't as harmless as it may seem because people have been pushing the idea of medicalization for anyone who wants it, not just binary trans people.

I don't know how this problem can ever be solved. Current feminism is toxic. I would almost say conservatives are better at this point, but they're toxic in their own way. But at least regular conservatives are not confused. A girl is a girl and a woman is a woman no matter how she dresses or wears her hair, and unless they're some kind of extremist, conservatives support women being able to have jobs in any field they want.

[–]DistantGlimmer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it's crazy. Here in Canada we have left wing politicians trying to legally be able to take kids away from parents who don't bow to the gender ideology and a Conservative woman MP is the only one standing up to that. I still wouldn't vote for them but I can't support this version of the left either. and of course, you're right about a lot of modern feminism just propping up misogyny.

I really think some kind of gender-critical movement able to get its unfiltered message out to women (and some men) who would support it is the only hope we have of stopping this but it's such a hard battle when pretty much all of media, politics, medical institutions have been captured. I think you have a point that it's really only the conservatives that stop the genderists just from having total power right now. It's hard not just to get really discouraged right now.