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[–]Porcelain_QuetzalTabby without Ears 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sex; What's not to hate. Sure the first few years weren't that bad, albeit having a dick was kind of weird from the beginning. But when puberty hit. That was a fun time. Slowly turning into an ugly ape. Seeing how your body slowly morphs into the wrong thing and only having daydreams to fall back to. Strength was nice but definitely not worth it. Not having periods and not getting pregnant is quite nice thou. At least for me and my current lifestyle.

Gender [I assume you mean roles, since you are GC and that's the way others answered] I personally don't have that much experience with gender. Not because I lived a live shielded from it. But when masculinity was running up the stairs to get me, religion had already crashed through the window and got me in a choke hold. That's why its hard for me to tell wether the toxic stuff I experienced was religion or masculinity. But now that I got out of that shit show and started to reintegrate into secular society I think it's disgusting. The way most men talk about women and objectify them makes me wanna throw up at times. How easily they dismiss women. And how you're expected to just go along with this stuff.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's why its hard for me to tell wether the toxic stuff I experienced was religion or masculinity.

Aaaah. Two great tastes that taste great together. /s

That's a very hard entanglement.

[–]worried19[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Was that your earliest sign of dysphoria, that you felt weird having a penis?

I feel you about religion and toxic gender roles. I was lucky that my parents were not that religious, but Christianity plus gender is a rigid box within a rigid box. Secular society is better, but not by that much. Have you ever had any experience with men outside of toxic masculinity? Not all men are terrible. I was lucky to know decent men growing up.

[–]Porcelain_QuetzalTabby without Ears 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Honestly yes. It just felt weird that it was there. Like it wasn't part of me and did not belong there. Yet it was still attached and that just weirded me out. I did not think much of it until I learned about sex in elementary. Yet one of my earliest daydreams was that I had the ability to just swap it out, which in my childish imagination would make me female. God it's hard to remember that.

Christians are a completely different kind of toxic to be honest. And yes not all men are horrible. After leaving religion I joined the far left and have been active in Antifa for quite a while now [yes I know I'm pretty much a stereotype at this point.] Toxicity is rampant there as well, but far less than in the conservative youth I also was in at the time. I met a few great people in Antifa. But before that I was so deep in that cult, that I can count the great men I met on one hand. Thou it didn't feel like that at the time.

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[yes I know I'm pretty much a stereotype at this point.]

I get the self-deprecating humor, but I'm gonna go with no, not a stereotype, because (to borrow the words of a friend) you're taking consciousness of yourself and your situation, not just pinballing reactively from extreme to extreme. That's pretty hard to do, the gaining-and-maintaining consciousness bit.