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[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, if you're arguing that both the left and right wing desire total power and the suppression of all dissent, that's a depressing way to view the world.

What I am saying is that those in power will use any rhetoric to get what they want. That rhetoric needs to be supported by indoctrination and narrative control so it can't be shifted on a dime, but when the time comes those who control the levers of power will once again switch to conservative rhetoric. Then censorship, which is just a tool of control and not a left or right ideology, will be justified using right wing arguments like "evil must be stopped" instead of "hate must be stopped".

Blasphemy laws existed and will exist again. Being against that censorship does not make you right wing and being against censorship today does not make you right wing. It just so happens that modern censorship is done using left wing arguments and that tricks a lot of low IQ leftists to support it.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What I am saying is that those in power will use any rhetoric to get what they want. That rhetoric needs to be supported by indoctrination and narrative control so it can't be shifted on a dime, but when the time comes those who control the levers of power will once again switch to conservative rhetoric.

I feel like you're so close. You understand that those in power use rhetoric to get what they want. You understand that those in power use indoctrination tactic. And then you say "those will once again switch to conservative rhetoric" - well, when they switch to conservative rhetoric, all that means is that you're being manipulated by a different set of actors. It doesn't mean you're free. It means your masters have been replaced by new masters.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you're being manipulated by a different set of actors.

You're not getting it. They don't believe their own propaganda.

It is the same people using whatever propaganda gets them the results they want.