you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]Be_incorrigible 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think it's interesting that everybody fixated on the age issue the difference between how 18-year-olds and 17 year olds are treated ,(which I agree is pretty arbitrary and stupid) and not sharing their own controversial beliefs which was the point of the post to begin with. You guys made it a little creepy is what I'm trying to say.

[–]NastyWetSmear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, I'm sorry! I was just trying to expand the conversation and let people know that it's okay to talk about these things without being shouted at. I can share a controversial belief, if you like:

Eugenics isn't intrinsically evil or wrong, it's just that the common applications of it are typically wrong and done by the kind of people who go straight to control and power as solutions. The morality of any specific application of it needs to be argued individually - IE: Two people with a 100% chance of having a disabled child. Should they be permitted to create a child who will have to endure life with a disability? - but as a tool unto itself, it's not different than, say, prison: The act of locking someone away and running their life for them is wrong, but we do it partially as punishment, partially to protect people from them and partially as an opportunity to rehabilitate. If you did it to someone just because you hated their face, it would be evil. Do it someone who keeps killing people, and it's justice.

[–]Be_incorrigible 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not sure if you're discussing eugenics or capital punishment. And since we're the only species that protects the weakest it allows them to pass on their genes eugenics makes a certain kind of sense. (Not saying I'm on board because well s*** I'd make the short list myself probably) as far as capital punishment I totally disagree... The calculated and ceremonial dispatching of anyone by a government or anyone else disturbs me.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was talking about eugenics. I was using prison as an example of something else that, on the surface of it, seems wicked and undependable: I'm going to take you against your will, lock you away with a bunch of people who are victims of their most base instincts, decide when you can work, walk, eat, etc... It sounds wrong, but we do it because we know the alternative is worse.

I was saying: Sometimes the tool itself isn't evil, it's the application of it. On the topic of which, I agree with your initial statement. I may not consider the tool evil, but I don't know a soul on earth I'd trust to wield it right.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not a lot of people here, so not a lot of stories to draw on. Such as myself. What would I post, a link to my conspiracies post history? A link to a 5 hour video you'd have to watch and digest, before even possibly understand what I'm saying and believe?