Which of the Nine Satanic Sins do you believe in?

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[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Nature is demonic and is run by the god of this world, who is also known as "Satan". This is what ancient Christians believed and it's in the New Testament. Why do you think all the pagans religions worship it? Now we're trying to flip the labels so Christians can be corrupt and well-meaning people will be tricked into doing the will of the devil.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

You're fucking retarded and so is the concept of "God".

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Nature existing by itself isn't logical.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Nature doesn't require that you understand it, nor do you need to, nor do you need a myth to.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It isn't possible though. The cause in any case is your perception.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

The cosmos is too vast for tiny humans to perceive or comprehend it all. Any attempt is folly.

So make up a myth to box it in and explain it all if that makes you feel better, but that's all fiction and you're only fooling yourselves while handing over logic and power to those who would exploit and abuse it, intentionally or not.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

But you are perceiving it. You're also perceiving the fact that you can't perceive it all.

What I'm trying to say is the mind causes existence, not the other way around. The reverse is logically impossible.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

All that is true.
None of that justifies making up mythical excuses for existence.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Then you admit that you are ultimately above nature. Therefore it cannot be the source of morals regarding us. They can't come from anything in this world.

Do you really want a world where only the elite survive and the rest suffer and die? Where everyone battles each other to the death? Where no individual has any value, except to advance the species? You're thinking from the perspective that we're nothing but machines, but you know from your own existence that's not true. Why do you value the worthless, pointless things of the world which were never even real to begin with, above the good of real individuals? If we can avoid it, should we really all have to suffer and cause suffering to continue this pointless game of life? Shouldn't we make the most of it and remedy what we can? This is not just any video game or simulation. It's one where real people are stuck as the characters and can't exit. It's not like a normal video game where you're simply having fun and not actually putting anyone through whatever it is that happens.

If nature had its way the most evil, brutal creatures would be commended. Indeed they already are. Believe me, nature doesn't have your interests at heart, or anyone else's.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Then you admit that you are ultimately above nature.

I never said any such thing.

Do you really want a world where only the elite survive and the rest suffer and die? Where everyone battles each other to the death? Where no individual has any value, except to advance the species?

I never said any such thing.

You're thinking from the perspective that we're nothing but machines, but you know from your own existence that's not true. Why do you value the worthless, pointless things of the world which were never even real to begin with, above the good of real individuals?

I never said any such thing.

If we can avoid it, should we really all have to suffer and cause suffering to continue this pointless game of life? Shouldn't we make the most of it and remedy what we can?

I never said any such thing.

If you can't debate honestly I have no time for you.

If nature had its way the most evil, brutal creatures would be commended. Indeed they already are.

The food chain is topped by fierce creatures. And humanity is topped by Machiavellians. That doesn't negate us nor the rest of "creation". You are projecting your own mythological subjective speculation rather than reasoned logic.

Believe me, nature doesn't have your interests at heart, or anyone else's.

Nature doesn't need to have any interests at all. Nature, including us, simply exists, undeniably. Existence is.

I am a part of nature.
Natural Law applies to all of us, whether you admit it or not.
I don't think you even know what Natural Law is, nor do you care to learn, because your religious fervor is getting in your own way. Learn: Mark Passio Natural Law, and maybe some Zen Buddhism and Existentialism, then come at me.