ShalomEveryone is a full of shit enemy of humanity, and I ask for them to be banned for perpetually sealioning, shilling, lying, and dragging down discussions (only the last is ban-worthy by site rules).

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[–]milkmender11 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

ShalomEveryone is a master-level troll and this post's engagement stands as a testament to his skill and dedication. The fact that he has not posted here only goes to reinforce his patience and nuance, two of the most overlooked and important aspects of an excellent troll. You may not be commenting here SE, but we know you are with us, watching over us.

[–]fukit 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (8 children)

He's not a master level troll, he's a mentally ill caricature. Nothing he says is ever clever or exposes anything other than his own hypocrisy and hate. Only his coethnics ever find him amusing or upvote his shit, as we see here once again.

It's certainly possible he's attempting to draw out comments and criticism of Jews in an effort to appeal to his coethnics with money and power to shut down the site, as we've seen people like him(and possibly him) do to other sites, but that only further serves to prove the people he hates most right.

[–]milkmender11 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

I would expect any dedicated troll to indeed be mentally ill, hypocritical, and hateful. That's why we troll and the veridical reality of those characterizations is not lost on us. This is an art form that you don't 'get'--no, it is more than that. This art form depends and relies on you. You are the most important ingredient in SE's trolling. Thank you for being a part of our community! I, for one, am very glad you are here. Your presence enriches my Saidit experience, and I truly do mean that earnestly.

[–]fukit 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

If he or similar trolls experience some enjoyment in getting a response from me or others, I could care less. My target audience in pointing out his behavior is not him. His own real views are as irrelevent as he is, but he is a symptom of a greater problem. There are similar trolls who basically do what he does on CNN, in the NYT, on reddit and countless other mainstream media outlets. They have the power to do real damage as their bullshit goes completely unchallenged and their own motivations remain hidden. The current state of America is the end result.

[–]milkmender11 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

And yet here you are, engaging on my comment, a comment with virtually 0 engagement apart from you. You do care. You are here, with me, typing back and forth. You aren't communicating to an audience. You are comminicating with me and you know it. We are here together in this tiny little comment thread that barely another soul will see. This is why 'care more' is such a classic troll refrain. You are here, typing, you care. Regardless of what you say about intending to speak to someone besides me. If you really meant that, you wouldn't reply to me here. Please do, though! There is only one way I 'lose' here, and that door closed the moment you replied.

I understand your critique. In the long term, I can envision some possible futures in which you are actually entirely correct. I think the problem runs deeper though. The issue isn't that nobody challenges it. The issue is that there are invested entities that actively stifle our societal inclination and ability to challenge it. Their dominance would have to be contested before challenging trolls like SE would have any meaningful effect. I think you are putting the cart before the horse, so I'm not concerned with whether your analyais is correct or not. I would sooner hear an argument about how you think trolls like SE damage the quality of Saidit as a community.

[–]Tiwaking 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The issue isn't that nobody challenges it. The issue is that there are invested entities that actively stifle our societal inclination and ability to challenge it.

Im of the opinion that a lot of people have blocked ShalomEveryone. I havent blocked him because I dont block anyone.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

kind of cringe, you're not smart just sad

[–]milkmender11 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jokes on you, I am both smart and sad

[–]ShalomEveryone 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ShalomEveryone is a master-level troll and this post's engagement stands as a testament to his skill and dedication.

I am not a troll but I appreciate the compliment.

Shalom

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