Users of Saidit: Should subs that don't violate the rules be removed from s/all by the admins?

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[–]Dragonerne[S] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

You're a leftist in all but self identification.

The alt right isn't extreme. We are the popular view of the masses, which is why we are oppressed through censorship, enforced taboos, elite created social stigmas, establishment fake news, and so on.

Most people agree with us which is why we are censored and not given a voice. We have a very appealing message for white males that they need to hear to know that they are supported, don't need to feel hated, don't need to speak lies, don't need to bow their heads, don't need to walk on eggshells and so on in social and coorporate settings. They have an intrinsic worth.

If this site is anti extreme, why are you calling Japanese men ugly and calling for whites to mix with Japanese women? That is extreme. White genocide is extreme.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Magnora7 took the Ironleft off of s/all as well. The alt right is considered a more extreme view, in that it's controversial. This is regardless of how many people may feel whichever way. I'm not positive, but I would assume that his goal would be to keep saidit from having polarized views in either context from making it to the front page so that it doesn't deter those posters that might not want to view/associate with one side or another. It keeps the site itself from being politicized, and subs within containment areas. This also deters shitposting, or at least in theory it would.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

The alt right is considered a more extreme view, in that it's controversial

It's controversial for the elites, because speaking the truth is problematic, when you're out here trying to spread propaganda to control the masses. However it is not extreme, because most people agree with our views, when they learn about them. In fact, now adays much of what we were spreading 8 years ago is mainstream now.

It keeps the site itself from being politicized

Have you looked at the front page? It looks like r/conspiracy

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

However it is not extreme, because most people agree with our views, when they learn about them.

It appears that the fundamentals on who the elites/true enemies are seem to vastly differ among the many within the group.

Have you looked at the front page? It looks like r/conspiracy

Why do you think it looks like r/conspiracy?

[–]Dragonerne[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It appears that the fundamentals on who the elites/true enemies are seem to vastly differ among the many within the group.

Could you give examples?

Why do you think it looks like r/conspiracy?

It is the same type of articles, gives the same kind of vibes.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Examples:

"Elites", Ziionists, jews of any flavor/creed, the Anglo, the Chinese, the Illuminati, Scottish Rite/Freemasons, satanists, reptilians, Nephilim, the Watchers-- in any individual or combination.

There's no cohesion on where you stand on religion, where you stand on racial purity, where you stand on gay men/transgender people being drawn to or within your ranks, who is a psy-op vs who's based, whether women should have rights, whether or not capitalism is bullshit, whether or not a form of socialism is good for the people, whether you should aim towards feudalism or democracy, what makes good men good, etc. You have human garbage such as Roosh V and Richard Spencer, and actually show respect towards them instead of seeing them as liars that are there to latch onto anything possible for relevance and fame. The worship of ancient greek philosophers that were known pederasts, along with anything having to do with the catholic church-- a hotbed for pedophilia and predominantly the sexual abuse of young male children-- fucking disgusting.

It's a joke. Shit on me if you want, but the majority of the people that are on the upper class within that group don't give a shit about white people at all beyond the fact that they think they're more trustworthy and just don't want to live around "the coloreds".

[–]Node 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

"Elites", Ziionists, jews of any flavor/creed, the Anglo, the Chinese, the Illuminati, Scottish Rite/Freemasons, satanists, reptilians, Nephilim, the Watchers-- in any individual or combination.

Which is why "jews and their associates" seems to cover the issue better than zooming down in on one little piece of the puzzle. The freemasons, jesuits, and non-jew "elites" probably make up the bulk of the associates, but they themselves probably put out 90% of the bizarre theories and misinformation about what they're up to.

As for the confusion you cite among the alt-righters, the alt-right itself was created to divide the right, and to corrupt the credulous. No one respects Richard Spencer except the oblivious and/or confused. But his Op was pretty successful, imo. He literally had a "based-faggot" in the alt-right from the beginning... Which is obviously only going to attract people who are not actually on the right. "Tolerate homosexuals, goy!"

Yes, Richard can cite quotes and philosophies by the great thinkers of the past, but he was always a judas goat. I believe I heard him tell JFG on youtube last year that the government should forcefully inject people with substances they call vaccines, and other ideas that would surprise people who thought he was on the right.

In the past few years, politics has been turned into such a shit show that beliefs about how things should be are often not a predictor of one's political identification. One prominent example was how the left hated Trump, even as he was openly destroying white people, who are their traditional enemy. And people who identified as Conservatives openly embraced Trump... It was like opposite land among the masses. And it still is.

Anyway, despite saidit being such a leftist/normie site, it was much better than all the other reddit-derivative sites, and it's sad to see it stumbling so badly.

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I like saidit more than most other places available like it. It's just in the throes of something. There's still those of us too stubborn to leave.

Way to never check your messages.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Way to never check your messages.

Have I missed messages? One of the few saidit mechanisms that needs improvement is the way all messages are on the same tab. So, just loading the browser will cause personal messages to disappear along with random comment replies. I prefer the system where you have to intentionally click "mark message read" to remove its notification.

I tend to feel the same about saidit, even if events lately have put me off a bit.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, about a month ago now.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (16 children)

See, this is so typical of you types. You imagine someone said something, and then criticize your imagination.

I didn't call Japanese men ugly, I called them a disaster zone. Which they are. They have no idea what women need, nor how to give it to them. And I said to screw Japanese women because they're hot. Where did I recommend having babies?

Plus that "you're a leftist" bullshit is really off-putting. Another reason you far right types always lose is that you can't stop making enemies. People have got to be 100% pure with no faults, and you're great at hallucinating faults like you did to me.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

If you don't want to be called a leftist, don't promote censorship and don't tell users to leave the site, because you think our views are "extreme". To you, they might be extreme, but to the majority of people they are completely normal and natural.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Calling people leftists who aren't leftists is a wonderful way to alienate people, but keep on doing it. That's why you people lose and lose again. Nobody's pure enough for you.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You're having a fantasy image of who we are. No one in the alt right cares about purity. But good job repeating the establishment narrative, you earned your silver coins my guy.

We are pro white and don't want whites to go extinct. It is of course an outrageous position to hold, in your mind. We don't hate whites? How extreme of us.

We don't want to be censored? How extreme of us.

If you want my respect, you need to earn it. We do not need you and we do not need the left. We have the majority of the people on our side and with the help of the internet, our message is spreading every day. Giving comfort and unity to White men who need to hear our Word. Meanwhile you're here crying about being alienated by us, by feeling excluded because you feel you're not pure enough for us, I assume? Is that your angle? You want our acceptance?
The alt right is a pro white movement but we are by no means white only. Plenty of non whites support our movement because they don't want to see the White race genocided and because they recognize the glory of the Western Civilization and the Human Advancements that we have brought forth for all of humanity, male and female.

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    [–]Dragonerne[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Yes, you absolutely shouldn't breed with someone who has black admixture. Am I going to do a purity test for the ethnostate if someone is 12.5% black? No, of course not. The goal is about the survival of white people. The establishment want whites to mix with non whites, because it speeds up their genocide.

    If we turned this development around and dethroned those in power, it would be a different situation. It's not purity that we care about, it is survival.

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      [–]Dragonerne[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      To each his own, I wouldn't recommend it.

      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

      This coming from the guy who used to call me a scientologist? How funny.

      [–]Soylent 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      He's right though. Dissidents continue to lose and alienating people is a big contributor to that.

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Wow, totally forgot about you. Yeah, I forget what it was, but you were harping on some weird topic that only scientologists ever talk about. It's super important to to them so they bring it up all the time and won't let it go. Besides, I don't care if I alienate you. You should stop posting on this site.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      We were talking about the tribes of pre-colonial America and their long defeat. You were saying that they deserved it. I said fuck you.

      [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Plus that "you're a leftist" bullshit is really off-putting. Another reason you far right types always lose is that you can't stop making enemies.

      The leftist doesn't like being accurately labeled.

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Nah, that's not something that Scientologists obsess about.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      And that's why it's hilarious that you called me one. You are such a Nancy, chipit. Own up to your retardation.

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Oh look, personal insults. Deliberately against Saidit rules. I don't remember what it was about, but boy it must have burned to lose an argument so badly, so much that you want to bring it up again a year later.