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    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    That is the point.

    Yet no one has answered my drunk questions.

    [–]Velocity 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    You've had a little too much to think tonight.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Yesterday. My cats just woke me up. I couldn't get back to sleep. I guess I've got too much to think this morning.

    [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    1) Are not corporations, government bodies, and individual government servants time and time and time again caught up in corruption scandals - many proven to be very problematic?

    Governments ARE corporations. Masonic lodges, Skull and Bones are all corporations. As evidenced by charter documents. Anyone telling you the US & c., isn't a corporation is lying to you. Knowing this, treat the government as the corporation it is and do what the sociopaths do now; play game theory but do it morally.

    2) Are not the 5 giant media monopolies, at the least: guilty of narrow-minded groupthink, and worse: socially engineer manufactured consent for perpetual war, propagate consumer-based culture while being hypocritical via "climate crisis", and implementing other psychological operations?

    Yes, all of them owned by Zionists.

    3) Do you acknowledge that the shadow government via the deep state and secret agencies has profound and lasting effects on cultures and world affairs?

    Nah, the corporation remains, secret societies are just incorporations with members who do the bidding of THEIR corporation.

    BUT YES, there has been secret society INFLUENCE throughout history; some have also built upon the culture of society and man.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    1) Most people don't realize governments are also corporations. It's not as simple to understand, and may confuse many.

    3) Most private and public corporations are very secretive. IMO, they're all secret agencies of sorts. And they all support the shadow governance of exploitation, some more directly and impactfuly than others.

    [–]shitface9000 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    BTW, the answers to your questions are all "YES". But I think you knew that already.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Q: Why?

    A: The questions are aimed at all the shills on SaidIt.

    If they can answer yes to any or all 3 of these fundamental questions then they need to shut the fuck up about there not being any reason for truth-seeking, conspiracy theories, conspiracy facts, and conspiracy analysis.

    Their mental gymnastics and contortions of logic into word salads justify systemic corruption and/or confuse, distract, divide, manipulate, and deceive. They are misinformation agents and assets lying to serve the evil matrix of rigged systems, intentionally or ignorantly, paid or not.

    I wish I'd thought of this sooner (and more sober), and I'll always link to this post whenever I get shill bullshit.

    [–]shitface9000 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

    Wow I've actually met the woman on the right, and have seen her occasionally over the years. This is an old photo that may be my neighbor's home. The one on the left I think I met at an xmas party once, but in different attire.

    [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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      [–]shitface9000 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

      He has annual xmas parties full of hipsters and hotties. He owns the building and his apartment is a huge duplex. It's used sometimes for film shoots, and apparently photo shoots as well. This photo is like 15-20 years old I think.

      Now that I think of it, I remember seeing this picture before and recognizing both women. lol. Check out the schnoz on the right one tho.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      10 to 30 years ago I was sexy as fuck too. Now I'm Santa (long story).

      [–]shitface9000 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Well, I'm not trying to brag but both of those ladies were flirting with me back in the day.

      Over the years the parties had more and more kids. I haven't been to one in a while now, but they still rock the block, as it were.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

      Dumb luck with a search for "sexy Santa" (as in me). I hadn't even considered something like these girls until I saw the results (mostly pron).

      City?

      [–]shitface9000 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      San Francisco

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      That was far and away my number one guess. I'd lived there and knew how free some of the folks were.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      Huh, I thought you were young for some reason. You know your address is on there, right?

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      I was once young. I am immature, an animator, and young in spirit. And time has a strange way of catching up with you. I lost a dozen years in a Big Pharma fog. The white beard came early, in my 30s. That photo ads even more weight with the perspective but I don't give a fuuuuck because anything 20lbs overweight or more is no longer sexy. Ironically in that photo from this summer I'd already started loosing some, and this year I've lost some of that fog weight, though not even close to what I'd like. It's slower older, and with a limited food budget.

      I put my address there. Send all the cash you can. In the old days most people were listed in the phone books. Mobile phones weren't. Now everyone's paranoid of being doxxed except by the corporatocracy. Ironical.

      For a while I thought you might have been the reincarnation of the banned /u/Useless_Eather as many had speculated. There were several reasons why that theory doesn't hold up. This is another.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      I was once young. I am immature, an animator, and young in spirit

      Sounds like me, minus the animator part.

      Now everyone's paranoid of being doxxed except by the corporatocracy. Ironical.

      Just making sure it wasn't an accident. I've never been quite as cavalier but I not that long ago felt similarly. 99% of people are not a problem.

      For a while I thought you might have been the reincarnation of the banned /u/Useless_Eather as many had speculated. There were several reasons why that theory doesn't hold up. This is another.

      Never been banned here. I'm really easy to identify by my writing style and mentality. I can't really evade bans unless I don't say anything and what fun is that!

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      While there's generally no need to make it easy to be surveilled, if they want you they'll get a skiptracer to find you if they don't already know. Personally, that extra "security" is not worth my time and effort. Further, I think we need people to be brave and bold and an example to openly resist to inspire others - the way I haven't yet worn a mask into a store (though I have put one on inside a few times for a few moments until they get out of my face about it). Maybe I'm just brave and bold while the stakes are low, or maybe I'm just stupid. Maybe I'll be first to be made an example of - or a martyr. Time will tell.

      The main reason why folks assumed it was you was your sudden prolific appearance soon after his departure, also prolific.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      The main reason why folks assumed it was you was your sudden prolific appearance soon after his departure, also prolific.

      My blessing is my curse, Jason. I write too much, and people like it BUT I get a target on my back. They'll string me up eventually.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Notable people get noticed. Some might try. Persevere.

      [–]Jesus-Christ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      You're a cool guy, JC.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Thanks. Likewise. We cultivate our moods and mess it up in style.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      i like them both, mmm ass

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      Yes to the first two but I don't believe in the deep state.

      secret agencies has profound and lasting effects on cultures and world affairs?

      The CIA sure as shit has, not much of a secret. And all that foreign aid we give out, that's us openly affecting world affairs.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      What do you think the deep state is?

      What do you call people in government who haven't been elected yet have 30+ year careers in power? "Dr." Anthony Fauci is just one. He has major influence - and that's just in the field of virology. There's much more to the medical and big pharma industries, as well as food, military, natural resources, manufacturing, etc. And then there's all the intelligence and spy agencies, known and unknown. Of course there's also the countless NGOs and think tanks that are strategizing how to fuck everyone over in all nations. NONE of this happens organically on its own. MOST global events work in the favour of the ruling class. If it were natural it'd be close to 50/50, sometimes working out for the masses.

      The CIA is not a secret, but it's a very secret mafia agency. EVERYTHING the "mainstream" corporate media tells us about it is bullshit - including all their heroic authority propaganda.

      Lastly, I hadn't even mentioned banksters and their financial puppeteering, along with the billionaire class with a finger in all the pies. I'm quite sure there are other silent classes above the billionaires - royalty, Rothschilds, B.I.S., etc. The E.U. doesn't vote on their policies - so who makes them up? The shadow government.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      What do you think the deep state is?

      A shadow government like some League of Villians plotting the real path of the US from their pedo island complex?

      I agree with what you're saying about unelected persons and organizations having an undue amount of power and influence. I just don't think it's coordinated.

      I have family, not close, that are wealthy and powerful. Most people use what they developed or a derivitive every day. Still, as connected as they are, it's also very location specific. They wouldn't have any pull in my area or yours besides what wealth allows. They may be Lords but only in their fiefdom. People scramble for power at all levels, no way do I believe in any sort of cabal above it all, it's just too... Messy for lack of a better word.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      A league of villains may be a more suitable and dramatic title, but I'm quite sure the malevolence and greed of their systemic greed-for-power-based evil is quite boring. A bunch of suits at desks writing checks to ship arms to troubled zones is not glamourous no matter how many James Bond films they make trying to spin it.

      Of course it's all coordinated (with plenty of maneuvering room for the uncoordinated) in hierarchies - and with warring factions. Not just FBI vs CIA but groups of CIA vs others within the CIA, etc. EVERYONE is always trying to improve their status and influence, in all careers, so trade craft is no different. EVERYONE always has someone to answer to. Even "independent" people use banks, pay taxes, have licenses, etc, and are ultimately answerable. Those with millions or billions have screwed MANY over to get it and are thus compromised and vulnerable to anyone with even more means and a desire to control them (via prison, blackmail, endless litigation, supply/market/transport/communications rigging, media smears, dynamic silence, etc).

      " They wouldn't have any pull in my area or yours besides what wealth allows. "

      Then they are not remotely as powerful as those I'm talking about. If you're a billionaire in Canada and you have limited reach in Australia, you call on your Australian friends to solve it and vice versa. At those levels it's about networking. That's why the MSM Russiagate is nonsense yet there's a real uninvestigated Russiagate. Clinton, Trump, and every billionaire and globalist in the world has deep connections to Russia, China, etc.

      Those with global reach would be impotent without swarms of "lords", like your distant family, with only regional influence to call upon to affect the legions of the powerless masses. Wealth allows for quite a bit. They can hire capable people to "handle things". The tricky part is knowing who those capable people are and to not be closely associated with them. That is a whole other network and aspect of the deep state. (Example: Over 80 naturapathic doctors mysteriously dead over less than a decade could have been achieved by one or two solo guys or small teams. Small but effective.) The outright evil stuff is comparatively minor compared to the corruption and controversially grey stuff or even the abundance completely "legal" yet very exploitative and harming stuff.

       

      On WikiSpooks if you search for "shadow government" it redirects to...

      https://WikiSpooks.com/wiki/Deep_state

      " The deep state (loosely synonymous with the shadow government[1][2][3], or more rarely permanent government[4] or permanent state[5]) is in contrast to the public structures which appear to be directing individual nation states. It is an intensely secretive, informal, fluid network of deep politicians whose deep state milieux effectively amplify their influence over national governments. "

       

      https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_government_(conspiracy)

      " The shadow government (cryptocracy, secret government, or invisible government) is a family of conspiracy theories based on the notion that real and actual political power resides not with publicly elected representatives but with private individuals who are exercising power behind the scenes, beyond the scrutiny of democratic institutions. According to this belief, the official elected government is subservient to the shadow government, which is the true executive power. Some of the groups proposed by these theories as constituting the shadow government include central banks, Freemasons, intelligence agencies, think tanks, organized Jewry, the Vatican, secret societies, Jesuits, moneyed interests, globalist elites, and supranational organizations who seek to manipulate policy in their own interest or in order to serve a larger agenda that is hidden from the general public. "

       

      https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state

      " A deep state is a type of governance made up of potentially secret and unauthorised networks of power operating independently of a state's political leadership in pursuit of their own agenda and goals. In popular usage, the term carries overwhelmingly negative connotations, although this does not reflect scholarly understanding. The range of possible uses of the term is similar to that for shadow government. The term 'Deep state' may refer to: "

      • plans for an emergency government that takes over in the event of a disaster, see continuity of government
      • a government run by:
        • an unelected bureaucracy or branch of the security services- see section Cases
        • a state within a state or deep state- specific examples include
          • Deep state in Turkey
          • Deep state in the United States
      • an opposition grouping in a parliamentary system (see Shadow Cabinet) especially in cases of 'ennui' experienced by a ruling party- see section Popular understanding
      • a 'Shadow government', a conspiracy theory of a secret government.

       

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      I don't know how this got an NSFW. I didn't add it. I feel censored.

      The thumbnail is small, it's not porn, and you'd need to click the JPG expando to see the full image which is only 472x460.

      [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

      Reposting what I already said in the original thread he linked -

      I brought up flat earth so that you would understand how stupid the logic is. "No one can be exposed to this much information and not come to our side at least a bit, unless they're acting in bad faith" would only be true if what you're claiming passes the sniff test. "COVID-19 isn't a lung disease and you can't make a vaccine for it" is one of many examples of the obnoxious quackery you guys are peddling on this site, and it's not even remotely compelling as a narrative, no matter how much you repeat it.

      Do you think if you keep reframing the question you're eventually going to get a different answer?

      1) Yes, but which government bodies, and what scandals? Just because drugs get through that we find out later have long-term side effects doesn't mean it's suddenly reasonable to believe that the FDA intentionally certifies bad drugs, and it certainly doesn't justify most of your obnoxious conspiracies.

      2) Some of those things are true. Corporate media often has some agenda; it's just less nefarious than what you're implying here. That still doesn't justify most of your obnoxious conspiracies.

      3) The CIA does shady (probably criminal) shit abroad, and agencies like the NSA spy in a manner which should be illegal domestically. That doesn't justify most of your obnoxious COVID-19 conspiracies.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

       

      Flat Earth is beyond retarded and you know it. Your comparative strawman is deceptively attempting to make scamdemic and vaccine skepticism equivalently illogical is malicious against all truth-seekers. YOU are a threat to finding the truth. A lame dumb threat, but a threat nonetheless for the newbies. Those who know don't need my spiels here, so I bother to write these for the newbies.

      You don't get to determine what passes sniff tests. You are NOT trustworthy NOR an authority - even if I bowed to any "authorities".

      The "official" narrative is anything but compelling. FACT. Otherwise there wouldn't be so much discussion and resistance to it. If you don't buy our alternatives concepts then propose something else OTHER than supporting the fraudulent overabundance of diverse and often contradictory propaganda.

      The "official" narrative is the excuse used for tyranny in all forms. FACT. This "New Normal" is disaster capitalism manufactured via this engineered crisis, regardless of how real the virus may be. They are suppressing MANY alternative solutions to the exceptionally profitable vaccines and their dire fallout. Further, the "Great Reset" is excessive control overreach of epic proportions on every level (financial, employment, shopping, communications, travel, and other rights and freedoms).

      Pretending like these aren't related makes you not only a fucking retarded status quo slave with dysfunctional non-skeptical mental capacities, but it proves you're a shill of the lowest order. You're not even good at it.

      If your wife cheated on you, would you make up excuses for her? Why make excuses for the lying, cheating ruling class and their minions?

      1 & 2) The proven-liar corporatocracy (including banks, industry, government, AND corporate media) MUST be always considered malicious and deceptive, until proven otherwise.

      3) The unaccountable, unelected, shadow government, deep state, and secret agencies have 2 goals: accumulate more power and manifest plausible deniability - for full spectrum dominance by any means necessary.

      Must read: The CIA as Organized Crime: How Illegal Operations Corrupt America and the World, a heavy fucking book by Douglas Valentine. This is what your deep state is up to.

      "it certainly doesn't justify most of your obnoxious conspiracies"

      Then what would justify fundamental distrust of all "authorities"? Would you have us wait until AFTER they've killed millions - just like Stalin, Mao, and the Western Empire in countless wars in other nations over the last century?

      The ruling class has clearly focused their class war on the domestic citizenry.

      Prove me wrong. You can't.

       

      [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

      Lol. When you get angry, the obnoxious formatting comes out. Stop asking stupid questions you should know you aren't gonna like the answers to.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

      You have no answers for me shill.

      [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

      I already answered your questions. Now you're just raging because you didn't like the answers.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

      I'm not raging. I'm exposing your bullshit. Not that it was even necessary. Everyone already knows you're a disinfo agent.

      [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

      "Exposing my bullshit"

      God, you are so delusional with this "shill" shit. No one is wasting resources trying to influence what the handful of whackjob nobodies that use this site think. I'm just here for the insightful discussions and interesting chats that do still happen from time to time, in spite of the presence of people like you. I know for your paranoid and conspiracy-addled excuse for a brain this might be hard to accept, but there's a good reason your beliefs are considered fringe.

      [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Whackjob nobodies... why are you on here then?

      [–]Velocity 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      He's our normie training dummy now. Learn their scripted objections, understand their subversive arguments.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

      Everything you type is a waste of resources.

      My disbeliefs in authority and their propaganda are far from fringe, despite what your "mainstream" propaganda will tell the feeble-minded like you.

      It's certainly not fringe here on SaidIt, and it wasn't on other sites until the powers that be forced censorship everywhere. They don't want the masses to know the truths of their deception, manipulation, exploitation, and extermination agendas. That's why even their limited hangouts like Julian Assange are in prison.

      Keep pretending the tyranny isn't rising and hopefully it will end your suffering sooner than later.

      [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      Keep pretending the tyranny isn't rising

      Would we call this a Motte & Bailey since you're retreating from your "Holocaust is fake" and "COVID-19 is a scam of some kind" nonsense to something more general that's actually true? Or would we call it a reverse strawman since you're implying that I was arguing against something I never actually did? Or would we just call that a regular strawman?

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      That's fallacious logic, as is par for the course with you.

      I'm not retreating a millimeter. The Holocaust remains largely propaganda nonsense and an epic scam, while the COVID-1984 Scamdemic is the rising tyranny that I was referring to. And it's faaaaar from over.

      So you recognize tyranny rising but won't acknowledge any of the details that prove it? Is that a disinfo strategy from your shill toolkit or simply some kind of twisted pretzel justification for your irrationality?

      [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Holocaust: 6million dead, anything less and it isn't the Holocaust: It's denying the holocaust. Emperical evidence tells me that 6 million did not die. That doesn't mean I love Adolf Shicklgrubber.

      [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Fallacy.

      [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Never bring up Flat Earth. It discredits anything you have to say afterwards, whether you're pro-flat earth or using it as a strawman, it just makes you look like a nincompoop.

      COVID-19 is real; is it a cut and paste virus? Possibly. Is it just a coincidence that it parallels that of EVENT 201 and the Great Reset? Maybe. Is it exaggerated for the wrong reasons and being used for ulterior agendas? Sure.