Answer me these 3 simple questions:

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[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Reposting what I already said in the original thread he linked -

I brought up flat earth so that you would understand how stupid the logic is. "No one can be exposed to this much information and not come to our side at least a bit, unless they're acting in bad faith" would only be true if what you're claiming passes the sniff test. "COVID-19 isn't a lung disease and you can't make a vaccine for it" is one of many examples of the obnoxious quackery you guys are peddling on this site, and it's not even remotely compelling as a narrative, no matter how much you repeat it.

Do you think if you keep reframing the question you're eventually going to get a different answer?

1) Yes, but which government bodies, and what scandals? Just because drugs get through that we find out later have long-term side effects doesn't mean it's suddenly reasonable to believe that the FDA intentionally certifies bad drugs, and it certainly doesn't justify most of your obnoxious conspiracies.

2) Some of those things are true. Corporate media often has some agenda; it's just less nefarious than what you're implying here. That still doesn't justify most of your obnoxious conspiracies.

3) The CIA does shady (probably criminal) shit abroad, and agencies like the NSA spy in a manner which should be illegal domestically. That doesn't justify most of your obnoxious COVID-19 conspiracies.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

 

Flat Earth is beyond retarded and you know it. Your comparative strawman is deceptively attempting to make scamdemic and vaccine skepticism equivalently illogical is malicious against all truth-seekers. YOU are a threat to finding the truth. A lame dumb threat, but a threat nonetheless for the newbies. Those who know don't need my spiels here, so I bother to write these for the newbies.

You don't get to determine what passes sniff tests. You are NOT trustworthy NOR an authority - even if I bowed to any "authorities".

The "official" narrative is anything but compelling. FACT. Otherwise there wouldn't be so much discussion and resistance to it. If you don't buy our alternatives concepts then propose something else OTHER than supporting the fraudulent overabundance of diverse and often contradictory propaganda.

The "official" narrative is the excuse used for tyranny in all forms. FACT. This "New Normal" is disaster capitalism manufactured via this engineered crisis, regardless of how real the virus may be. They are suppressing MANY alternative solutions to the exceptionally profitable vaccines and their dire fallout. Further, the "Great Reset" is excessive control overreach of epic proportions on every level (financial, employment, shopping, communications, travel, and other rights and freedoms).

Pretending like these aren't related makes you not only a fucking retarded status quo slave with dysfunctional non-skeptical mental capacities, but it proves you're a shill of the lowest order. You're not even good at it.

If your wife cheated on you, would you make up excuses for her? Why make excuses for the lying, cheating ruling class and their minions?

1 & 2) The proven-liar corporatocracy (including banks, industry, government, AND corporate media) MUST be always considered malicious and deceptive, until proven otherwise.

3) The unaccountable, unelected, shadow government, deep state, and secret agencies have 2 goals: accumulate more power and manifest plausible deniability - for full spectrum dominance by any means necessary.

Must read: The CIA as Organized Crime: How Illegal Operations Corrupt America and the World, a heavy fucking book by Douglas Valentine. This is what your deep state is up to.

"it certainly doesn't justify most of your obnoxious conspiracies"

Then what would justify fundamental distrust of all "authorities"? Would you have us wait until AFTER they've killed millions - just like Stalin, Mao, and the Western Empire in countless wars in other nations over the last century?

The ruling class has clearly focused their class war on the domestic citizenry.

Prove me wrong. You can't.

 

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Lol. When you get angry, the obnoxious formatting comes out. Stop asking stupid questions you should know you aren't gonna like the answers to.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

You have no answers for me shill.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

I already answered your questions. Now you're just raging because you didn't like the answers.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

I'm not raging. I'm exposing your bullshit. Not that it was even necessary. Everyone already knows you're a disinfo agent.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

"Exposing my bullshit"

God, you are so delusional with this "shill" shit. No one is wasting resources trying to influence what the handful of whackjob nobodies that use this site think. I'm just here for the insightful discussions and interesting chats that do still happen from time to time, in spite of the presence of people like you. I know for your paranoid and conspiracy-addled excuse for a brain this might be hard to accept, but there's a good reason your beliefs are considered fringe.

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Whackjob nobodies... why are you on here then?

[–]Velocity 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

He's our normie training dummy now. Learn their scripted objections, understand their subversive arguments.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Everything you type is a waste of resources.

My disbeliefs in authority and their propaganda are far from fringe, despite what your "mainstream" propaganda will tell the feeble-minded like you.

It's certainly not fringe here on SaidIt, and it wasn't on other sites until the powers that be forced censorship everywhere. They don't want the masses to know the truths of their deception, manipulation, exploitation, and extermination agendas. That's why even their limited hangouts like Julian Assange are in prison.

Keep pretending the tyranny isn't rising and hopefully it will end your suffering sooner than later.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Keep pretending the tyranny isn't rising

Would we call this a Motte & Bailey since you're retreating from your "Holocaust is fake" and "COVID-19 is a scam of some kind" nonsense to something more general that's actually true? Or would we call it a reverse strawman since you're implying that I was arguing against something I never actually did? Or would we just call that a regular strawman?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

That's fallacious logic, as is par for the course with you.

I'm not retreating a millimeter. The Holocaust remains largely propaganda nonsense and an epic scam, while the COVID-1984 Scamdemic is the rising tyranny that I was referring to. And it's faaaaar from over.

So you recognize tyranny rising but won't acknowledge any of the details that prove it? Is that a disinfo strategy from your shill toolkit or simply some kind of twisted pretzel justification for your irrationality?

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Holocaust: 6million dead, anything less and it isn't the Holocaust: It's denying the holocaust. Emperical evidence tells me that 6 million did not die. That doesn't mean I love Adolf Shicklgrubber.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fallacy.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Never bring up Flat Earth. It discredits anything you have to say afterwards, whether you're pro-flat earth or using it as a strawman, it just makes you look like a nincompoop.

COVID-19 is real; is it a cut and paste virus? Possibly. Is it just a coincidence that it parallels that of EVENT 201 and the Great Reset? Maybe. Is it exaggerated for the wrong reasons and being used for ulterior agendas? Sure.