The Economist is thrilled to report that Zelensky will throw every last Ukranian into the meat grinder before he'll negotiate with Russia

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[–]Site_rly_sux 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Here's the story without your boomer marketing tags. Quite interesting tags there that someone could use to de-anonymise you - because you're a clueless boomer

https://archive.ph/hT7bk

A negotiated deal would not be permanent. The Russian president has a habit of creating “frozen conflicts” on Russia’s borders (in Georgia, for example), not as ends in themselves but because his goal is to “restore the Soviet Union”. Those who choose to talk to the man in the Kremlin are “tricking themselves”, much like the Western leaders who signed an agreement with Adolf Hitler at Munich in 1938 only to watch him invade Czechoslovakia.

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Mr Putin “does not understand that in the long war, he will lose. Because it does not matter that 60% or 70% [of Russians] support him. No, his economy will lose.” As Ukraine increases its strikes inside Russia, Russians will start asking awkward questions about their army’s inability to protect them, “because our drones will land”. The Russian president’s authority was weakened by the mutiny in June of Yevgeny Prighozhin

What's your answer to his points boomer dipshit??

Your headline is invented imaginary words that you're putting in zelensky's mouth, it's quite literally a straw man.

Are you so devoid of answers to his points that you have to invent fake straw men to argue against? How pathetic for someone your age to be so low IQ

[–]Megatron95 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Your headline is invented imaginary words that you're putting in zelensky's mouth

So Zelensky's word is gospel and not mere speculation you say. So basically, Putin can't be trusted and negotiations should be avoided while there are still some pawns left to sacrifice in this geopolitical chess game. Right...

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Another strawman argument.

Nobody said "Zelensky is gospel" or whatever fake words you'd like to pretend I said.

What I said was - your headline is an imaginary fabrication pulled out your ass, nothing at all similar to a quote from Zelensky.

What's your answer to the real points that Zelensky raised? You're unable to answer his points raised so you have to pretend he said something else

[–]Megatron95 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It still is mere speculation on his part that Russia will lose and OH! The soviets were sneaky in the past(logical fallacy(appeal to probability)) so let's not try any attempts at deescalation or peace talks. That's the gist of it isn't it? Your position makes it seem that Zelensky is talking factual information which he isn't. I have no dog in this fight. It's still the same sad story: peons fighting a war for the oligarchs.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Why are you still imagining words to put into his mouth?

Is it because you don't have any answer to the legitimate points he raised?

a negotiated deal would not be permanent

Did you have an answer to that point raised by zelenksy?

Mr Putin “does not understand that in the long war, he will lose.

What's your answer to that very good point raised by zelenksy?

Don't you have any answers to the actual points that he's raising?

You have to build imaginary straw men out of fake words, because you have no answer to the actual arguments being raised

Why should Ukraine cease liberating it's land, when Putin is losing and peace is impossible, like with Hitler and sudentenland in 1938.

You literally have no answer to the reality on the ground, so you have to imagine fake strawmen

Edit - lol 😂

You think patriots and freedom fighters kicking the occupier out their land are "fighting a war for the oligarchs"

While insisting you "have no dog in this fight"

🤡

[–]Megatron95 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm paraphrasing here but that's what he said you dumb bitch. No peace talk = continued war. But that's what you want isn't it?

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, I want the aggressor and initiator of this war to go home.

If everyone just goes home then the war will end.

Why aren't you insisting that everyone goes home? You want the ruzzians to maintain their belligerant presence in another country - that's not very antiwar of you.

Zelensky made good points, you clown. Ruzzia is losing. This week Ukraine liberated opotyne, robotyne, and multiple oil wells. Why the hell would they stop? What might they liberate next week?

I don't get how you can pretend to be against war, but your answer isn't "and so the aggressors should return to their homes so the war ends"

[–]Megatron95 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/martin-armstrong-why-ukraine-must-lose-save-world

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes, Tyler durden of zero hedge....the fake news engineer whose lies cost Alex Jones over a billion dollars. Nice resource.

I checked out the link, and it was full of screed like "Zelensky is a WAR CRIMINAL" in bold letters. It's more the opinion of the fake news engineer rather than asserted facts about reality. I agree with you that "Tyler Durden" probably believes the contents of the link you shared. But are there any assertations about reality in there you'd like to hang YOUR hat on? Why did you link it?

[–]hfxB0oyA[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It must be very difficult to type these articles while they're gargling on NATO's cock and balls 24/7.

[–]yeah_no 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I love how these propaganda articles from these zog rags don't even include an author anymore. Maybe they just pump this shit out using AI these days, or they're worried people would notice almost every propagandist calling for more war seems to have surnames belonging to a certain ethno-religious group we've all come to associate with starting and perpetuating needless 21st century wars.

[–]Megatron95 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At least you can be sure the AI is left-leaning and in line with the mainstream narrative. And it won't try to unionize like those coddled humans.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is pretty normal propaganda in war times.

No one sensible says "oh yes if you just kill 10% of us then we'll give up" because then that's what the enemy will aim to do.

Just like Biden shouldn't have said that the US would do nothing if Russia invaded even if that was the case.