Vanessa Beeley Interview - Turkey & US Openly Protect Extremists In Idlib As Lies Begin To Crumble by zyxzevn in Antiwar

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Joining me today is Vanessa Beeley, an independent investigative journalist and photographer who has worked extensively in the Middle East – on the ground in Syria, Egypt, Iraq and Palestine, and has covering the conflict in Yemen since 2015. In 2018, Vanessa was named one of the 238 most respected journalists in the UK by the British National Council for the Training of Journalists. In 2019, Vanessa was among the recipients of the Serena Shim Award for uncompromising integrity in journalism. Today we are discussing Syria, Idlib and the wall of propaganda surrounding all of it.

Her YT - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqySDfPcmKYq6oUeC03y57A

neither magnora or hs gay roomate have responded so I have doxxed them. by NIGGERJEW in Antiwar

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you're pretty based bro

neither magnora or hs gay roomate have responded so I have doxxed them. by NIGGERJEW in Antiwar

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only legit people can get the etra char

US Announces Three New Bases in Iraq After Iraqis Demand Full Withdrawal by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LEAVE!

Opens up McDonald's.

US Announces Three New Bases in Iraq After Iraqis Demand Full Withdrawal by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]cant_even 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where is the 'antiwar community' in the US?

US Announces Three New Bases in Iraq After Iraqis Demand Full Withdrawal by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

way to poke the bear, man, sounds like a great plan. /s

Trump's Middle East "Peace Plan" Is In Fact A War Plan, In A Very Poor Disguise by zyxzevn in Antiwar

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most "peace" plans consist of a big stick with the carrot arriving as a last resort.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]codeineblues 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah wikipedia, the bastion of truthiness, like I never went there before. Lebanon is more of a real constitutional democracy that their batshit insane southern neighbours who should go back to Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania etc.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]codeineblues 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Democracy

I lol'd.

Fascist Theocracy is more like it. And the Iron Dome is a joke that doesn't work and isn't needed. I recommend to listen to interviews of MIT Professor Ted Postol, one of the, if not the authority on missile defense in the US. Israel has 200-300 illegal nukes, and we all know what's their policy if one day the west decided to stop funding the country into existence. Annihilate all life on earth. So we're basically getting nuclear blackmail from Israel when we account all the facts and remove the BS propaganda from one's inner conscience.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]codeineblues 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Israel can nuke any enemy away. Obama and Brennan were calling Netanyahu chickenshit for not just nuking Iran if they had such a problem with them. Can't say any country around them can even dream of shooting at an empty kosher beer camp on the other side of the border. You're either 16 year old or have never had real history classes and real history books. Grade 10 History books in US schools aren't paragons of truth, buddy.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the pudding?

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have I what? Pwned you? Yes.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]R3BIRTH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Have you?

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Elitist Machiavellian geo(ego)-politics to depopulate the world, of those they don't like.

Its so simple, you guys still can't understand it.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What does that have to do with it? Just look at population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle_Eastern_countries_by_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Middle_East

Israel is a small population, the only democracy and surrounded by mooslims who want to kill them all - but I guess you're OK with that. Noted.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]R3BIRTH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Have you researched holocaust skepticism?

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a year old and yes a big reason is Israel because normal people don't want to see the Jews genocided.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Faith huh, perhaps.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

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Where is the proof?!

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Except it’s not.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And funny that we got a New Year Eve address stating he wanted peace, pfft. They're gonna ship the military out, and the National Guard, and bring in 'peace keepers'; enter the draconian state.

Think about it, no one here to stop tyranny; I do believe the current military would have a decent percentage stand with the people.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]GoNzO 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Imagine if We The People all came together aginst all these mother fuckers in Government Left and Right,we could really take our country back,the ruling class fears that more than anything. The Right/Left lie is meant to do just what i does,control us,estort us,strip our rights and much much worse they are doing. Yet we are fighting with each other over who "Gets to Rule Over Us" think about that for a minute. Shit we are ready to war with each other over "Who Gets To Rule Over US" You cant make this shit up.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]zyxzevn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Empire Files - Oppose War w/ Iran & Iraq
They explain how the people in Iraq and Iran actually supported this guy.
He helped Iraq fight against Isis.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That article lost me at “illegal occupation of one third of Syria.” It’s called war. Might makes right.

But honest question, did Trump say HIS MidEast policy or AMERICA’S policy. Part of Trump’s game is to reveal certain facets of the inner workings of the government that other politicians aren’t willing to acknowledge.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The whole MBS/journalist murder thing was put on in an attempt to remove MBS from power. He's a reformer, and the Pentagon and State Department (unelected government/deep state) don't want any reform in SA. They like it just like it is.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

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It's happening! Neo-cons are winning!

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Politically speaking... there's a lot of money invested in Israel. Sunk cost fallacy multiplied over several years.

We can't adequately control the place.

We can barely fund them.

45% of them think we're crazy for allowing atheism to spread uncontested (lol).

Combined with the fact that if we cut tied and run they will instantly declare us an enemy when we desperately need allies in the region.

Whole thing is a clusterfuck years in the making. Like an abusive spouse who would take everything in the divorce, we can't leave them.

Trump Admits His Mideast Policy Guided by Israeli, not American, Interests by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Timmy 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

From the original Washington Post report: Trump, discussing the Middle East: "Now, are we going to stay in that part of the world? One reason to is Israel."

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]SteveTafe 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Defending israel, like we give a.shit about Israel

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Tiwaking 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes please. Pull the troops out of these shithole countries. Too many American lives have already been lost in the middle of nowhere.

After Trump's Attack, Iraq Finally United...Against Us! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]SteveTafe 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good time to fuck off and let these countries get back to fighting each other, instead of us

Christmas In Gaza Always Comes With Israeli Bombings And Death, This Year Was No Different [AmericanVagabond] by zyxzevn in Antiwar

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Additional info:
In the video is referred to an article about how the "iron dome" is fake and just fireworks.
And I indeed often see videos about it, that seem to hit nothing. But the explosions are supposed to hit a rocket. Fake attacks are a good political tool. Might be interesting to research further.
In a 8? years old documentary with the Palestine people, I saw them talking about how "real" rocket attacks work. The people are poor and have no access to weapons (borders are strictly closed). They see unknown people outside their homes that shoot a rocket from their street. And soon after this street and houses is bombed. I suspect that these "unknown people" may be working for Israel.

Lies, Opium, & A Trillion Dollars In Afghanistan [Lee Camp] by zyxzevn in Antiwar

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This is about the Afghanistan papers, so it also needs some James Corbett:
The Afghanistan Papers Are Establishment Whitewash BS

Why Do They Hate Us? by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]black_hole_son 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe if America stopped invading other countries it would help reduce the hate.

Why Do They Hate Us? by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They don't hate us. 9/11 was an inside job, and all of the "terrorism" is false flag bullshit.

Also, defending your country from an invading army is not terrorism.

US Says They 'Had To' Bomb Afghanistan Hospital to Get Taliban by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]DffrntDrmmr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Misleading headline.

This was a construction site. Taliban fighters were trying to breach the U.S. air base at Bagram, which adjoins a medical facility under renovation.

The attack saw the Taliban use a suicide car bomb to force their way onto the site, and they dug in defensively for a 10 hour battle. Airstrikes were clearly the most effective way for the US to kill those Taliban.

Why Do They Hate Us? by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]DffrntDrmmr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, basically, this guy thinks America deserves terrorist attacks. Fuck him.

US Says They 'Had To' Bomb Afghanistan Hospital to Get Taliban by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]RuckFeddit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Russia does it in Syria? warrants a news article on every website every day for a week.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no, i did not know it is fake. how and why is it fake anyway? and i am not 'pushing' anything, don't bite my head off! :-)

you mean nothing hit the pentagon, and they simply detonated explosives that they previously installed?

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll write up something soon. Yes, most of the Pilots for 9/11 truh believe the planes were switched or never left that day. They never had to be switched in mid-air because they were phantom planes, at least one of them was. Read the ENTIRE declassified Northwoods document. Mock victims and fake funerals, drones flown via remote control into beacons.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll write up a post about Northwoods and how I think they did the plane psyop with good spelling and sentence structure in a few days.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

^ DUDE, theat video is fake, you knwo that right. It was debuked a long tiem ago. Why are you pushing that?

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now, if a drone did hit, and we know they RIGGED THE TOWERS with nano-thermite, larger explosives and detcord, would they really want to fly a drone into a building thus possibly destorying the wiring of the buidign with explosives? I'm playing devils advocate here. How could they ensure that the drone would not mess up the placement of the explosives? Maybe they used nano-thermite to cut the steel jsut below the plane impacts and then a few sotires below used regular demo charges, idk?

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A plane, but a drone, not like a predator drone, but a reinforced tanker or passenger jet remotely flown into a beacon.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They just took out the plane, to show you what the explosion would look like without it. Ask, youself, who first pushed no plane theory, and who first pushed drone theory?

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please do, I still beleive they followed the Northwoods protocol. No hijackings, mock vicsims and drones.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

9/11 is the litmus test, all politicians fail. Paul also is a staunch supported of the Zionists, though he pretends not to be or milds it down at times.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

mo, there were no planes on 911 at all, they just used explosives and a technique called video overlay to photoshop planes on video footage. no planes, no hijackers, just controlled demolition. clean and simple.

that's why they didn't scramble any fighter jets, the pilots in those would see the truth - that there are no hijacked planes..

We know, two things in this psyop, September Clues tells us some aspects of teh fakery but can they be trusted. They in totality expose the fake shootings, whereas the alternative news does not, because they are a controleld opposition.

There's two options, the planes were drones or no planes at all. We know they were rigging the percise locations where the planes made contacts with the facade. We now, almost EVERY video and raw footage of the event showing the planes happened to work in hollywood, riddle me that. one of which worked for the military in intelligence. We know that they said phone calls were called on the planes, it was 12, then 10, then 2 and now 1. But under 5,000'. But all the family members say they got teh cell number, at least 12 of them. But then we have crisis actors playing mock family members shilling for war and laughing on tv the day of their sons and daughters allegedly died on the flights. It seems to be a production of some sort.

IF THEY were fake, the planes, and eveyrone who saw then, were manipualted into believing they saw them via perception management over news telling them planes hit the towers, then what about the phonce calls and the family members. Operation Northwoods gives us a hint, they are ALL, yes, ALL actors. Everyone, who signed non-disclosure agreements, and this has been exposed by many researchers.

So, did drones hit the towers or no drones at all is the question.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, read 2001 an Anthrax Deception, and the book, Hijacking America's mind.

It's all bullshit and if they could fake the plane psyop on 9/11, the certainly faked this event too.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL, I forgot to mention that the fake Saudi shooter also watched mass shooting videos before his spree. PSYOP= researchers should not watch or research raw footage or research any mass shooting or expose them as frauds becuase they COULD BE TERRORISTS.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was a psyop. Read Israeli's CLean Break document, the document includes attacking and balkanizing Saudi Arabia, eventually. All this psyop does is increase islamaphobia, and hilariously, the shooter, probably part of the naval intelligence psyop tweeted just before the shootign about how he hated Israel and thought the US government was anti-muslim. LMFAO. It's all carefulyl scripted and fabricated, JSUT LIEK THE 9/11 hijacker stories who had Mossad agents and probably CIA operatives with them. There goal, according to ELias Davidsson and Graham MacQueen was to simualte the narrative so that the Zionist media, knowign what would transpire be able to weave together all the links needed to frame them, though they were ALWAYS apart of the psyop narrative.

THis shotoing is no different and in my newpaper, it was featured on the front page. It covertly, listed the main goals of this psyop, which include Israel's "Clean Break agenda, increasing Islamaphobia, psuhing for censorship via his alleged social media posts before the shooting, it even talked about reevoking the 1st amendment to prevent these terror attacks in the future, I kid you not. My paper is owned by a ZIonist Jew, so, there's that. I flip the page, the next story is Trump talking about how he is the greatest president for Israel to ever live. Next to it is the Boston Bombng article, and if the patsy for a PSYOP hoax unbombing got a fair trial or if he should of had been put to death. Again, cross marketing psyops, and producy placement propaganda. Thusly, an increase in islamaphobia. Funyn enough the article was written for Trump being the best president for Israle in of all places, HOLLYWOOD, FL, where the 9/11 hijackers were situated with their handlers.

ALL SCRIPTED andn perfectly fabricated psychlogical oeprations even on the local news scale.

ALSO, FUCK RAND Paul! Psyops, after Psyops, after cross marketing more PSYOPS, = Schema and perception management.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

well i agree that judy wood is unreliable. but i thought so is the nist report. i also like the comments, found this there, i don't remember seeing it before (missile at the pentagon?):

http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/5dbc426c4403.gif

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I found something on the wing impact damage. They're saying the wings didn't cut through steel. To me it looks like they kinda did, but it naturally fades out as you get closer to the tip. It has some good pictures at least. http://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/07/911-no-planes-fail-blog-dr-judy-wood.html

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know much about that part, I imagine so. I still need to look into Jesus theories like the planes being switched out.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

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I still think the simpler explanation is a real plane. We're talking like 10 camera angles, some of which only came out years later. And lots of eye witnesses saw the second plane.

I'll look into the plane shaped hole. From what I remember the major structural beams were mostly left intact.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

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time for you to get off your high horse and start behaving like a normal human being instead of resorting to belittling and ad hominems and start observing the pyramid of debate. this is not reddit. repeat offenders don't fare well on this site. pull your shit together

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, maybe you should sort of find a doctor and tell him about these thoughts you are having. It couldn't hurt.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

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i also think its impossible for the nose to go through the steel beams and the building in one piece, when in real life a collision with a featherweight (and soft) bird destroys it. so we can agree its just an explosion..

but not of jet fuel, but hollywood pyrotechnics?

i also remember something about the third video, i think in this version it is cropped, but in the original version there is a windshield and there is no reflection of the plane in the windshield

and i know another instance of a video presented here, but without a plane, just the explosion.

and the last point is that the wings of the planes are not strong enough to cut through the steel beams, yet it looks like they did. they placed explosive charges to make a hole in the wtc in the shape of an airplane. it is clearly visible in some shots

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

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September clues impact with "nose": http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uM9kjowAsdg/U4e-uk7JpNI/AAAAAAAAAHA/mOjyWGy7Gpk/s1600/SlowMo_Nose_Out.gif

lots more angles of the impact, the "nose" is just the first plume of smoke, particularly 0:20 and 0:55 and 1:40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abQh1AxeHWE

this nose come coming through thing seems to be the center of their argument, and it's all based on one particular camera angle.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

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that there are no hijacked planes..

The FBI investigation into the Pentagon attack was called PentBomb. Not pentplane.

I think planes were used as a cover, and flown remotely. No terrorist pilots.

If they faked the planes then they would look more similar to United planes.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

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Would Senator Paul’s policy be more or less the same as giving up the fight and retreating beaten back to the US?

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ron paul is also a 911 denier

d3rr sees depression in his near future...

no planes, no hijackers, just controlled demolition. clean and simple.

I'm not sure if that's actually simpler than real planes. All of the September clues CGI content is debunked.. I'd be happy to discuss it.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

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Saying something like that could have you investigated for corruption.

Especially if you call for the investigation of someone who is actually corrupt. Investigating corruption is illegal, and totally not a valid national interest.

Senator Rand Paul: Hmmm....15 Saudis attack us on 9/11. The Saudi government kills a US journalist. A Saudi pilot in training kills 3 of our soldiers. Can anyone spot the common thread? My take: It’s way past time to quit arming and training the Saudis! by Drewski in Antiwar

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don't fall for it! the saudis of the 911 were mostly found alive later and it is obvious they were just used like crisis actors at most. the main reason they used saudis is to make the 'osama did 911' lie plausible, because he was a cia asset since the days of the afghani mujahedeen movement. brzezinski was responsible for that.

imo, there were no planes on 911 at all, they just used explosives and a technique called video overlay to photoshop planes on video footage. no planes, no hijackers, just controlled demolition. clean and simple.

that's why they didn't scramble any fighter jets, the pilots in those would see the truth - that there are no hijacked planes..

rand paul, just like his father is a controlled opposition, a jesuit operative and a freemason. this is luckily an obvious disinfo, showing for real who he is serving. even his mother is an eastern star member. ron paul is also a 911 denier.

Trump Sends 14,000 Troops For War on Iran. Will it be Enough? by Drewski in Antiwar

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what else would you like to know, son?

Trump Sends 14,000 Troops For War on Iran. Will it be Enough? by Drewski in Antiwar

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Wow, your expert knowledge of military strategy has really contributed to the discussion. I can't wait to hear more of your well sourced and thoughtful assertions.

Trump Sends 14,000 Troops For War on Iran. Will it be Enough? by Drewski in Antiwar

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noone just sends 14k troops and expects to actually engage a fortified mountain fortress of a nation like iran in combat, quit being a dumb useful idiot nigger and use your brain for once and quit spreading fake news faggot

Washing tear gas off a street rat in HK by [deleted] in Antiwar

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I thought they were going to show a picture of Rickety Cricket.

Betrayal And Deception: Syria Is A Prime Example Of US Foreign Policy - "Given that the deep state retains ultimate control of US foreign policy, Trump is allowed to do and say what he wants – provided it is only within the confines of his media playpen" by magnora7 in Antiwar

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(Part 1)

Hey /u/magnora7


You know my viewpoint on Trump, the state, the media, the NWO, and the alleged conflict between unipolarism and multilateralism but I thought I'd try to explain it in more detail.

Your link suggests that the so-called deep state, most likely a coined DoD term legitimizes a caricature of what is left of a working system for the benefit of the people, even if it may be a paradox. That the current state of affairs can still work for the benefit of the people, if only the so-called deep state was wrestled from its reigns of power, is nothing more than perception management. The entire state is involved from top to bottom.

Many Zerohedge articles push multilateralism, or at the very least are staunchly against unipolarism. It would be expected that unipolarism would be shunned by the international community, but at a former time unipolar imperialism was more or less used as a tool by internationalists until they decided that the prospect for America would eventually succumb to multilateralism, which has always been the real 'New World Order,' or 'New Economic Order.' Make no mistake about it, the entire international community is involved.

What is clear is that there are dozens of players advocating for an international world government or at the very least an international body above the law; above all nation-state constitutions and charters; to impose their ideology on all others. There are the globalist technocrats, the Fabian Socialists who have slowly taken over schooling through gradualism and their wolf and sheep like actions; to the neoconservatives (neotrotskyites) and neoliberals, the former being of Bolshevik Trotskyite lineage who seek to impose the ruse of democracy on middle eastern nations for the benefit of Israel, internationalism and the 'Greater Israel Project' or the latter who work closely with the neoconservatives but instead impose austerity measures on entire nations, with the hopes of balkanizing, and destabilizing them for easier exploitation and control; or the Zionist Chabad-Lubavitchers who advocate a one world Jewish theocracy ruled by the chosen people under a Sanheadrin or at the very least a world court named 'The Supreme Court of Mankind." It should be noted that the UN founders (who helped to create the state of affairs in Israel we currently see today) despite their many measures against Israel have always advocated for centralization and world government, specifically centered in Jerusalem. Both Putin and Trump have direct Chabad-Lubavitch links and are held in high regard by Israeli intelligence and the Likudniks.

So, in order to create an internationalist framework you need an institutional framework of people across the globe, people in power with wealth able to wield the global economic system in their localities on behalf of a internationalist government.

To be clear, the Rockefeller family are notorious for and admit to calling for a new economic world order. An order that will emergence from a strong BRIC alliance. This multilateral economic world order was conceived back in the late 1950’s and early 1960’s, specifically in the Think Tank book, 'Prospects for America.' It is markedly similar to the ideology of Eurasianism.

Presently, this vision has thus far been materialized in the G20+, where it was before just the G7 operating the global agenda, moving from unipolar economic control from a USD global currency reserve to an all inclusive SDR base; thus a multipolar, dedolarized, economic order with the inclusion of other nations, most particularly developing BRIC nations, i.e., China, India, Brazil, Russia, Iran, etc.

The American plutocracy has been very complicit but they too wish to reap as much as possible while still having a chair of immense power in a USD global currency reserve so they've delayed IMF reforms and thus, the bypass is already underway with the BRICS development bank, an IMF counterpart that will distribute SDRs.

This is why many of the internationalists see fit to turn to a multilateral economic order with the possible exclusion but most likely inclusion of the U.S. The later agenda if it may come to fruition would be a total lose of U.S. geopolitical dominance with the setting up of a half-baked welfare state, which has been a goal of many internationalists, including the neoconservative (neotrotskyites).

Now lets talk about Trump. Trump announced Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Many take this incidence as a clear proof of a Zionist Occupied Government, but Trump actually only fulfilled his election promise to evangelic Christians, who are his main supporters.

It is Christian Zionism. They believe that when Jesus comes, America should be on the side of the God’s People. They also believe that the Jews will convert to Christianity in the end times. It may not happen so easily to people, who in the Middle Ages liked the story of Jesus boiling in hot excrement, i.e. the Talmud. It just is so that Jewish and Christian Zionists do not share the same view of what should happen after Jews are restored to Israel.

Christians would like everybody to be happy, Jews and Palestinians to live in peace and respect each other’s rights. While Christian Zionist believe that Jews are God’s People of the Bible and God has given them the Holy Land, they do not accept what has happened in Gaza and elsewhere, because it is so un-Christian. Many older Christian denominations do not have this problem, since for them Christians are the new Israel and they do not think that the state of Israel is the fulfillment of Biblical prophesies but a counterfeit.

The New Jerusalem is supposed to be a huge cube of gold and precious stones, clearly not something of this world. The Jews read it without the Christian coloring.

The Old Testament teaches of conquering the land, killing the former inhabitants, cheating and enslaving. It is not unlike what the Jewish Bolsheviks did in Russia.

As for Zionism, it originates from the Grand Orient of France and there are personal connections tying both Zionism and communism to B’nai B’rith and Anti-Defemation League (ADL).

The support of international bankers to communism, and also to Nazism, has been shown by several historians. This support has mainly come from Anglo-American and Jewish sources. As the Grand Orient of France was not active in these countries and Freemasonry is implied in this support, the lodges behind these subversive movements must have been some secret group inside regular Freemasonry.

Inner circles of Zionism with the support of international bankers seems to be the only surviving secret society that may have the role today of the NWO conspiracy.

This website writes:

About the division to leftist and to rightist

Trotskyism was Communism supported by Jacob Schiff, so it was Jewish version of leftist Freemasonry where the goal was a totalitarian one world, while Zionism was presented as an only alternative to Communism and it was supported by the same Jacob Schiff, and here the goal was a free market one world, which in the final stage is led by Israel. That is the real NWO agenda.

For Freemasons the division to leftist and rightist extremists was a real one, but for Zionist bankers it was just a conflict that could be used to advance the Zionistic goal, which is biblical: Israel and world domination.

This biblical goal is naturally not a negative one, as it is supposed to be the reign of peace (all who do not like it are enslaved or destroyed, so then there is peace under the wise king).

The Freemason goal was never a negative one, it was only that the end sanctifies the means, you simply had to destroy the old rule and kill the old rulers in order to build the ideal Platonic world republic.

About the division to unilateralism (the goal of the USA) and multilateralism, the goal could definitely not be a world led by the USA (or by the UK, or by France, or by any king of Edom). The USA is still one king of Edom and the seven kings of Edom must lose their power and all nations must be under the wise king. I agree that in the near future the goal of this plan must be multilateralism so that different players can be played against each other. But the final goal was one world, not led by the USA but by a world government, which is controlled by bankers. That is, the biblical goals can not change. It is as in Isaiah.

Betrayal And Deception: Syria Is A Prime Example Of US Foreign Policy - "Given that the deep state retains ultimate control of US foreign policy, Trump is allowed to do and say what he wants – provided it is only within the confines of his media playpen" by magnora7 in Antiwar

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[Part 2]


Now about Trump, the media and Perception Management


The state and its internal interlocks, mechanisms, and machinations are either using Trump for their ulterior agendas, or, and more likely that he, Trump, is complicit in this coordinated PSYOP that I will try to explain below.

Trump's role is that of a controlled opposition, limited hangout deterrent. He plays a theatrical role in establishing an antithesis of the establishment minions, particularly the ones espousing power geopolitics.

For instance: His role in badgering the media as "fake news"...

(a 'coverup' term created in a bi-partisan effort that skillfully withdraws the legitimate status or authority of the terms PROPAGANDA, perception management, and psychological operations)

...is a faux partisan effort to engender discord, division and confusion but primarily to reestablish the media as a legitimate source of truth?

How is that possible? Is he not delegitimatizing the media when he allegedly tweets how the news lies about "HIM". Or how during every press conference he yells "fake news."

Well that is the agenda precisely. Trump is the faux antithesis of the media. So, the aforementioned agenda of creating fervent, partisan political and geopolitical viewpoints ...

(in the case of geopolitics: an isolationist agenda, i.e., Just scroll through Drudge and other faux alternative and mainstream news outlets and political pundits praising Trump for his anti-war [war-hawk] rhetoric)

...despite what their actions may be was a behind the curtains plan cooked up by the DoD and the 7th floor groups. In fact, the entire state, from top to bottom, left to right, was probably involved.

Case in point, if they continue to cover-up 9/11 and the neocons and neoliberal involvement of whom also fronted the Bush administrations global war on terror, and the obvious and now scientifically proven demolition of WTC7, which they do, then I'm sure of it... I'm sure they ARE all involved in this carefully crafted reverse psychology agenda.

It is the only way they can remain in control. The statist, neoliberal democrats need Trump more than anything, the entire state does. They need a boogyman, a puppet figure to take the blame or to be hailed as a savior. They need a faux isolationist to pander to the anti-war, libertarian crowd. They need a controlled opposition to stigmatize the media in a partisan way in order to create political division (this too legitmizes CNN, for those who cannot stand Trump, and Fox News for diehard Trump fans.) They need a puppet figure to legitimize the media's narrative as either a.) truthful (FOX News, lol) b.) truthful with major, "bigly" bias, it's fake news, he says (CNN, MSNBC, etc.). But certainly not fake news in what I and thousands of other truth seekers are suggesting. We have come to understand that media works in a bi-partisan effort under the guise of partisan theatrics. When it comes to utilizing the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act, there is a bi-partisan effort to propagandize concocted DoD and DHS backed narratives. Patently false and even fictional psychological operations on a grand scale or simply in the subtleties of a written article; from the unnamed sources they use, to the trigger words they weave into their narratives, are officially legal and orchestrated daily.

You begin to see a highly coordinated bi-partisan agenda to KEEP YOU IN THE MATRIX. So, Trump's display affirms that we must believe the news is a priority, if not, THE PRIORITY. It does not matter if you myopically identity with the left or the right; libertarian or independent, if you are watching or reading about it and believe it, you are still under its spell and will forever be fooled.

So, throughout the Bush, and Obama administration people were waking up in mass, a bi-partisan awakening. More than half the county believes the government's official 9/11 narrative is a lie. Hence, why the Obama administration appointed Trotskyite Zionist, Cass Sunstein, who was called in to induce a cognitive infiltration campaign on all truth seekers. Interestingly, this is when the limited hangout narratives and controlled oppositions sprang up in mass.

As leader of cognitive infiltration, Sunstein, promoted the leader of the “bin Laden raid,” William McRaven, pushing for continued intervention in Syria, under the guise of “standing up for oppression and injustice.”

This pushing for intervention in Syria was a theatrical drama in opposition of Trump's,in words ONLY, foreign policy agenda. When we look back at it, we see Trump shilling for the various chemical weapon attacks in Syria that have been exposed as western backed proxy false flags. For more information, see ClarityofSignal's website.

https://twitter.com/CassSunstein/status/1184928709473644544?s=20

^ ^ ^ Read Cass Sunstein's own tweet and keep in mind that he was directly involved in covering up 9/11 and initiating a campaign in order to infiltrate the 9/11 truth movement.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHCWwj1X4AMizSc.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHCWwj1WsAEgaEJ.jpg

^ ^ ^ ALL BY DESIGN

That is COGNITIVE INFILTRATION, and perception management all wrapped into one

If I don't pay my taxes properly, I can go to jail. The pentagon however... by magnora7 in Antiwar

[–]CompleteDoubterII 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He never claims it is $21 trillion in spending. The tweet states: 'There are $21 trillion of unaccounted-for adjustments on the books', which is what the fact check by the New York Times states.

If I don't pay my taxes properly, I can go to jail. The pentagon however... by magnora7 in Antiwar

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Good point.

If I don't pay my taxes properly, I can go to jail. The pentagon however... by magnora7 in Antiwar

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Does the entire US government count?

If I don't pay my taxes properly, I can go to jail. The pentagon however... by magnora7 in Antiwar

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/us/politics/fact-check-pentagon-medicare-alexandria-ocasio-cortez.html

In other words, $21 trillion is the total value of adjustments made to the Pentagon’s financial records over those years that could not be traced.

That is not the same thing as $21 trillion in spending.

If I don't pay my taxes properly, I can go to jail. The pentagon however... by magnora7 in Antiwar

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Most corrupt and unaccountable? I'm sure one could find a worse organisation somewhere. It probably wouldn't have as much funding though, unless there is some kind of massive illuminati-esque conspiracy organisation secretly ruling the world or something like that; that would probably have more funding, and probably be less accountable too.

"War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it." - George Orwell by magnora7 in Antiwar

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I feel like this is a jab at the Jews. Not disagreeing, but now wondering how woke Orwell was...

"War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it." - George Orwell by magnora7 in Antiwar

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Case in point: Look at the Iraq war. The first things done after winning the war was stabilize the oil production, and take over the central banks, and for US companies to rebuild all the destroyed buildings.

It's all for profit.

If it had anything to do with humanitarianism, the US would've stepped in in Rwanda in the 90s. But there was no profit there, so they let millions die.

A summary of the real purposes of the "war on terror" ... by Robin in Antiwar

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Soft on Jews :(

A summary of the real purposes of the "war on terror" ... by Robin in Antiwar

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Yinon Plan deserves to be included in there somewhere.

Edit: Great post for newcomers BTW.