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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Not all fear is bad.

Agreed.
And not all love is good.

But generally, he's absolutely correct.

Reject blind faith in dogmatic mythology and you don't have to deal with gods or devils and can think freely and rationally. You are voluntarily enslaved to whatever you believe is "God".

I don't need God to threaten, coerce, coax, or reward me to do good.
I choose to do good of my own accord.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

not all love is good.

I agree, as in the love of self. When a man loves himself more than anything else, he is a devil seeking his own pleasure even at the expense of the misery of others.

You are voluntarily enslaved to whatever you believe is "God".

My friend, that sounds about right to me. A man will either serve God voluntarily or serve the world for its temporary pleasures, also voluntarily. But whoever or whatever we serve, that is our master. Have you ever known an addict that could not quit trying to get that next fix? Addicts are slaves to their own vice. For them, the addiction is their god, whether it be drugs, sex, money or even food.

I don't need God to threaten, coerce, coax, or reward me to do good.

Yeah, that is right... because if fear were your motive for doing good, it would be a dead faith, not a living faith. God wants people to do good because they love God. It is the greatest commandment: Love God.... and love your neighbor as yourself. Even if you are not seeking a reward (which is noble) he will bless your good deeds.

I choose to do good of my own accord.

You do have free will. However, man in his own strength often fails to do the good he thought he should do. That is where Jesus can help. A quick prayer to him can release the power of his Holy Spirit to help you achieve what you thought you wanted to do, but could not accomplish on your own. He also has the power to break addictions to vice and to remove fear, giving peace. Free will is the deciding factor. What do you want? God lets you choose for yourself, to your benefit or downfall. But he wants to bless you and liberate you from evil.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

A man will either serve God voluntarily or serve the world for its temporary pleasures, also voluntarily.

Whether you realize it or not, that's an inauthentic false choice. "You're either with us (terror state) or you're with the terrorists." How about neither? I don't have to serve "God" or serve materialistic desires. There most certainly are other options, and I certainly don't need a god to do objective good. I serve my communities in my fight against tyranny, and accumulate things for the practical purpose of fighting for freedom, preparing for the worst, hoping and striving for the best.

Speaking of addicts, you're a God junkie, drunk on your own mental masturbatory delusions whipped up into a frenzy by illusory pareidolic love.

How do you explain God blessing bad deeds too? Just look at the ruling class. No super power is stopping them, and it's wishful thinking to hope for a savior who will be assassinated, corrupted, scandalized, or demonized into oblivion. More importantly learn about the Epicurean Paradox:
IF God exists, either God is all powerful but doesn't care to help humanity, or God cares tremendously but is impotent to do anything about shit.

It's all random luck.

People have the power to break addictions and remove fear. Not God.

Fuck all Gods and all religions and all governments.
Be good on your own.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Be good on your own.

I agree with the part to "be good", but trying to do so on your own is like trying to use your cell phone without a battery. Your phone, without a power source, is useless. It is the same with your physical body. Mankind now thinks everything is physical, and has forgotten the spirit. When the spirit of a man leaves his body, his flesh is dead and lifeless. Once the spirit leaves, there is no way for doctors to bring life back into it. If your body is animated, it is because there is a spirit in your body. And you either have the spirit of God ruling over you or you do not. There are many confused spirits that would be glad to take over the driving of your car, JasonCarswell.

JC? Those are also the initials of the Savior who already died in our place, whom you reject.

Regarding your (probably rhetorical) question about the paradox.... God is certainly powerful enough to do anything he wants, but out of his love for man he gave him a free will, so he could achieve perfection. A spirit cannot be perfect without free will. Because God gave man that free will, he does not force man to do anything.

Man rejected God in the past apostasy and has fallen to this world, which belongs to God's adversary. It was by man's free choice that he rebelled against God, and it must also be by his free choice if he wants to return to God. And God did help humanity by giving us his Divine Word, which hardly anyone cares to read, and came to earth as the Savior, the one who seems to make you angry, even though he came to save you and to give you true freedom.

If you continue to try to do it on your own, you will soon see for yourself that God's adversary has deceived you, and you will be cut off from God's grace, by your own choice. As for me, I thank God for his daily help and blessings, and he certainly has helped me in many ways, and he wants to help everyone, but forces his blessings on no one.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with the part to "be good", but trying to do so on your own is like trying to use your cell phone without a battery.

Bullshit.

Again, inauthentic false arguments.

All I need to do my best is vitamin D and ginseng supplements and my own determination.

Live in gratitude but don't anthropomorphize it or be retarded about it.

Fuck God and his grace and your threats.

For better and worse, life happens regardless how you spin it.