Men, women, and children being publicly humiliated, beaten, and shrink-wrapped to street poles in Ukraine.

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[–]wristaction 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I have no problem with this. We should bring back shame-based punishments in the anglosphere.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Who gets to be the judge?

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People who witness crimes

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Judges? I didn't call for anarchy. I said we should bring back shame-based punishments. Stocks and scolds' bridles and such.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Would you like to go first? All of your sins could be exposed publicly, to bring you shame, to bring you to repentance.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You appear to be imparting something to this which wasn't suggested. No, I don't want to be chained to a pole in the center of town any more than do I want to pay a fine, but if I am found guilty of a crime or misdemeanor in a court of law, it's not for me to like.

You seem to be leaping to the assumption that "shame-based punishment" implies "scripture-based law". Which is weird. Do you only feel shame when you suspect you've let God down?

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, at least we both agree that we would not want to be punished like this.

You mentioned a court of law for determining guilt, even though these citizens of Ukraine did not enjoy such due process of law, and we do not know what crime they are guilty of, but you are promoting shameful punishments anyway. We all have sinned, so I asked you if you would like to go first and let the military men strap you to a pole, pull down your pants, and whip you, then leave you in the cold until someone is merciful enough to let you go. You, me, and all men are already deserving of punishment for our sins. Most of our sins just haven't been discovered yet. But someone has to pay for them.

As for me, I admit I have sinned, and I am sorry for those I hurt, by my thoughts, words, and actions. I have received God's forgiveness and praise the Lord for taking my shame publicly on the cross in my place, even though he was innocent. It was his love for all of us that made him lay down his life for our sakes, so that we could be redeemed and be free from the curse of the law. This offer of grace is available to you also, but it's up to you if you want to receive it.

I want mercy for the citizens of Ukraine, and I do not delight in them being beaten publicly, especially since I do not know if they are guilty of a crime.

Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

You said you were in favor of such shameful punishments, though, so you should prepare yourself to receive the same. Or repent, and receive mercy. It's your choice.