'Working with Stonewall is no longer compatible with NHS values' by millicentfawcett in LGBDropTheT

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Ok so does anyone on here know what the straw that broke the camels back was? Why now? Stonewall is finally getting its ass kicked with multiple people condeming them, multiple institutions abandoning them but im sure they were always scummy. Did they piss off the wrong heterosexuals? I highly doubt it was gays and lesbians. Or were the gays and lesbians secretly waiting for some societal gear to punch them in the face like that Maya Foster woman? Why are all these people getting so brave now?

Julie Bindel: There's no gay gene – and I love the idea I chose to be a lesbian by yousaythosethings in LGBDropTheT

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guess who has an ovarit account with one of the highest levels and almost every comment i post is openly praised by lesbians with cringey expressions of love because i articulate their pain and concerns in such a way that i get comments like: "i want to marry your words. i cant believe someone could express everything that's been trapped inside of me and i feel like im no longer imprisoned when i read your words". HMMMMMM, idiot. lol and all im doing is just infusing my homosexual experiences with their TRA bullshit. I dont feel like im the smartest person in the room. I just feel like im surrounded by a bunch of imbeciles with no ability to think of problems systemically. If your ways are so mysterious to me, then why are my comments overwhelmingly upvoted above everyone elses on one of your dumbest, most hyper regulated and censored sites.

Even your drama of dehumanization by bisexuals is the exact same dynamic gay males have to contend with when it comes to bisexual men and their dehumanization of gay males and their dangerous levels of homophobia. Almost like our experiences are exact mirrors.

The weak link that caused this problem is you. You misunderstood yourself to be a woman instead of a homosexual person and created massive security gaps within the homosexual community by running into the arms of bisexual and heterosexual women who destroyed you. And you still refuse to fix your mistake and alter lesbian culture. Close the damn security gap and stop letting these people flood in. It affects gay children as much as it does lesbian children. You're ruining the community. Thats my problem. Create your feedback loop to fix the problem. Yes, we have a million problems but theyre coming in from your side. You have always made the mistake of identifying with these people (women) who never even considered you to be a woman anyways instead of just just accepting you're just a homosexual.

So yes, i know your perspective intimately. I know the bisexual perspective intimately to the point where i can make them clap like seals for expressing it in ways they simply cant. And those perspectives are just flat out wrong and the error comes from them desperately wanting to center themselves as the solution to the problem to make sure they get served first, accidently sabotaging the entire solution.

Julie Bindel: There's no gay gene – and I love the idea I chose to be a lesbian by yousaythosethings in LGBDropTheT

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What's wrong with being a political lesbian? Surely she shares the exact same interests as you. It's not like she's extremely dangerous to lesbians and will accidently cause massive damage to lesbians long term. SURELY since she has breasts and you have breasts...i mean, what more could your political alliance be built on? Oh, and allowing these people within your midst so they can cause a massive rift between homosexual males and homosexual females simply because she doesnt like her own kind..the men she's attracted to. I mean, it's not like she coralled and manipulated massive amounts of lesbian energy and resources into making sure to drive a wedge between homosexuals so she can get her incel matriarchy fantasy ideology at the expense of your civil rights and humanity. She sure saved you from those evil gay misogynistic males because you know..gay males and their secret political alliance with the straight men she furiously masturbates to in secret.

Way to go. You allowed her within your midst and look at the damage she's caused. You sort of forgot gay men were the ones who pressured straight women to stop dehumanizing lesbians and threatened to stop being their little emotional labour slaves and listen to all their whining about their boyfriends if they kept disrespecting lesbians but yes..your fantasy of an alliance with bisexual and straight women totally makes sense when it comes to homosexual matters. And you destroyed your lesbian clubs specifically because of this pattern: letting them all in your fantasy utopia and they outnumbered you and brought their homophobic boyfriends into your clubs..which is why lesbian kids have to settle going to gay clubs because older lesbians massively screwed them over by brainwashing them with this false fantasy "womanhood" fantasy narrative that sort of elides how the homosexual community is supposed to work.

It's almost like she'll never know the true horror of internalized homophobia, the inhumanity and what "compulsory heterosexuality" truly means but a homosexual male could relate to you about this shit without even putting any effort into it.

Julie Bindel: There's no gay gene – and I love the idea I chose to be a lesbian by yousaythosethings in LGBDropTheT

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hmm, are the lesbians slowly being screwed over, sabotaged and destroyed from the rot inside of the fantasy matriarchy you've envisioned for yourself? Was exponent2 right all along? Should you find him, praise him and celebrate his prophetic ramblings? Maybe you should go on the bisexual sub on here and see what they say about lesbians and the cruelty they show to you as a homosexual.

Hmmmm....HMMMMMMM, almost like lesbians need to make amends with the homosexuals that are trapped inside men's bodies just as theyre homosexuals trapped inside women's bodies. Hmmm, HMMMM HMMMMMMMMMM, almost like she's causing very dangerous long term damage and prolonging the suffering of lesbians in a structural way and you're endangering yourself but apparently having a creepy vagina means you have more in common with heterosexuals that happen to have vaginas over homosexuals that happen to not have vaginas.

Are you rethinking your allegiances? hmmm? HMMMM....HMMMMMMMMM!? I'll go find exponent2 and tell him you recant everything you said.

It's almost like exponent2 and you are stuck with each other even if you hate each other since your interests are aligned and not by choice and bisexual women smiling doesnt mean much when theyre holding a knife behind their backs to greet lesbians with. HMMMMMMMMM.

Stay away from chasers! by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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they know we dont buy it. but the gay and lesbian CHILDREN are forced to confront this. that's where we're fucked because the gay community doesnt have access to its own kind and we dont dare reach out in any structural way since we look like perverts doing it so we have to wait until theyre fully damaged and developed when they finally reach us to fix their damage.

Stay away from chasers! by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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their entire FTM subreddit has evolved because they understood they were demoralizing each other. At first it was, "we need to destroy the gays and harass and bully them. If we intimidate them enough, they'll surrender". Then they slowly realized all their whining was giving out social signals: "i understand im a mutilated garbage freak BUT you need to pity me and the best i can ask for is that you dont vomit when you see me".

Now it's slowly an attempt at gaslighting: "you're not gay if you dont find trans men attractive! you must not be gay! oh my god..dont appropriate that word!" and calling anyone who has sex with them as gay. theyre using the appropriated "umbrella term" gay that straight and bi women like to hijack. But it's to build propaganda to show: "we were mistaken. we're not pitiful. gays have sex with us all the time..except for you". Im guessing it's very similar to how it started with lesbians.

Julie Bindel: There's no gay gene – and I love the idea I chose to be a lesbian by yousaythosethings in LGBDropTheT

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it's almost like she's an incel type with her "ideology" of building a magical utopia of lesbians ruling over some political sex cult of bisexual and straight women and she and so many like her squandered her energy like an angry lesbian warthog into lusting after pussy while gay men had to go all the work for homosexual rights and thats the origin of the tension between them. Hmmmm, seems like exponent2 was right all along. Let's all gather together and praise him for all he said. She's now asking gay men for help to help her build her warthog heaven where she can swim in the pussy of little straight girls. God, the kind of garbage gay men tolerate from these roaches is beyond saintly. And yes, i know she's a creepy bisexual woman but still, lesbians secretly support these people because they think theyre good for them...yet still expect some type of political relationship with gay men. I mean, can you imagine a bunch of gay men infusing their politics with some sort of sex cult ideology of a magical island of dick sucking instead of focusing on civil rights and then demanding lesbians help them with that? You lesbians need to push these creatures away. And i've seen her other writings. She's an imbecile. We just happen to hate the same people sometimes.

3 people I know in real life posted stories in support of the new intersex inclusive pride flag. by Criticallacitirc in LGBDropTheT

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then show them this and be like, "oh my GAaaaAAWD! i dont get it! can you explain this to me?! are they bullying gay kids?" https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN6bUPUugEzmNmC-nZTunsVPUtgAuMANMmoVSD1j5gmROqY5E53VSCukHKc8zSRHA?key=bTMzMDNKeC1vbkFkRjlqTHJKM284RU1IQ3JkSlF3

3 people I know in real life posted stories in support of the new intersex inclusive pride flag. by Criticallacitirc in LGBDropTheT

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are the people supporting it all gay (the friends you know).

All very good but when will Minor Attracted People be included on the flag? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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i think to destroy anything other than the rainbow flag, demand that the "progress pride flag" include the 300000 garbage sexualities on there along with the 9 million genders. Then lecture them when they tell you how ridiculous that is and start crying about them "gatekeeping" and making everything "exclusionary".

Growing up an as a gendqueer bi/pan/omni/greysexual... by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Except what the "mainstream media" said was that gays and lesbians were as crazy and confused as you. And this guy forgets to admit he's basically in an open war with the bisexuals where every 3 seconds on the bisexual subreddits, they need to incessantly prostrate themselves by saying, "bi does not mean 2! bisexuality is not transphobic!"

Funny how the transexuals stab each other and are at war with one another, invalidating each others identity and eating each other alive with the "you dont need dysphoria to be trans" making a mockery of and delegitimizing most transexuals ; omnisexuals, pansexuals, and polysexuals betray, delegitimize and politically stab bisexuals in the back by trying to make them the face of "transphobia" by making bisexual teenagers explain why theyre clearly into both genitals but not into circus clowns.

What these people can all agree on after all this backstabbing is that it's better if they all team up and pull out their knives to go for the gays and the lesbians. Yes, we dont like you for trivializing our civil rights struggle and trying to exploit our community by latching on to it thinking it's about personal exploration rather than the political goal of removing homophobia from society. Thats why you have 300 genders and sexualities..because it's a fun game for you.

...people are claiming that their prejudices are an innate part of their sexuality... by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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does having the highest number of upvotes within the entire post make you anxious? Almost like there's a problem with entertaining so many narcissistic people over the concerns of homophobia within the homosexual community. Hmmmm. Do you feel targeted?

...people are claiming that their prejudices are an innate part of their sexuality... by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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does having the top comment on this post concern you?

Don't let anyone tell you you're not gay enough, straight people. by Criticallacitirc in LGBDropTheT

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Although people like that exist, that type of pressure seems more of a problem with bisexual men . The "one drop rule" applies to them and the purity of their masculinity being tainted by homosexuality.

Even most bisexuals seem to acknowledge this but deeply misunderstand why it happens: "it seems everyone thinks bi people worship dick..bisexual women are slandered as dick worshippers who just say theyre bi for attention and bisexual men are slandered as just on their way to being gay men but theyre in denial".

In the most barbaric countries around the world, even 1 drop of "homosexuality" permanently taints a man even if he's 99% straight but lesbianism is just laughed out of the room as a joke and dismissed as a theory or hobby with no death penalty or punishment.

I've just noticed that the flood of these types of women that gays and lesbians were eager to align themselves with have a massive empathy gap that leads to conflict because one is about personal identification and socialization (fun) and the other is more concerned with civil rights and building a resilient community that can weather the tides of homophobia from heterosexuals since theyre not going away anytime soon.

One other thing i'll add is this: There is a power dynamic these types of people tend to leverage through homophobia and their privilege and it's so toxic and self destructive that it's now looping back on to them. A lot of bisexuals are in a "recruiting mode" where they have deep misunderstandings of what internalized homophobia is. They think it's self hatred but it also includes deep brainwashing by heterosexuals that you cant possibly be gay.

Bisexuals can be ruthless in their competition with the gays/lesbians they want to accept them in their community and try to use their vulnerabilities against them and it ends up ruining them in the end. One example is the "grooming" they do for recruitment by spreading rhetoric about fluid sexualities and even when older gays and lesbians pleaded with them to change their rhetoric, they just saw a weakness they could take advantage of. The gay community was there to help gay/lesbian kids overcome their homophobia and recognize that theyre gay...but the bisexuals are now holding on to a gigantic tsunami of confused, vulnerable gay kids they insist are bisexuals who, after stealing 10, maybe 15 years from them, will all be ticking time bombs and wil come out as gay and validate that bisexuality is just a stepping stone to full blown homosexuality. Instead of entering the community to nurture these vulnerable homosexuals, sometimes kids, they manipulated them to inflate their numbers and it'll just end up causing a massive "branding" problem for them since in the end no amount of grooming or propaganda can do stop them from realizing theyre gay.

I think most gays and lesbians know bisexuals arent the ones pulling the strings and creating all these pressures. Heterosexuals are. No matter how nice they are, heterosexuals are homophobic their core and maybe that's just natural for them. But even when you tell bisexuals that there are strings attached to their arms while theyre holding the knife, they usually just shrug and see it as another reason to not help or deflect responsibility.

It's a long comment, i know. But there was so much subtext within your reply that i wanted to address.

Rapists gonna justify rape and the T is embarrassing once again by Sunflowerdevyl in LGBDropTheT

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Look at how they act: "dont be a coward and stop wasting everyone's time. Just state that you're not interested in trans people"...as if we're scared to say it. And when someone does say it, it's apparently so devastating and so hateful that half their "community" will threaten to commit suicide and what was said was so dangerous that it must never be mentioned again.

Their narratives are slowly transforming so they can try to reclaim their incel dignity: Theyre ashamed and embarrassed at how they got to this point where they achieved a conspiracy of silence by incessantly threatening to kill themselves if anyone said they wouldnt date them and it's transphobic... but now they want their dignity back and want to pretend the people they pleaded to stay silent out of pity for them are now cowardly snivelling little duplicitous rats who need to out themselves and "stop wasting everyone's time".

See what happens when you give them an inch? Dont ever expect them not to use your complicity against you. Just like how most gays and lesbians, out of pity said: "sure, trans women are women now leave me alone". If you accept their premise, then they turn it around and say we're genital fetishists because we said trans women are women but lesbians said they wouldnt have sex with them so theyre perverts. Any premise you accept has inferences that can be used against you.

So now they're revising history to pretend the silence they begged for under the threat of suicide is a silence of cowardice rather than given to them out of pity, disguising this issue by implying we personally feel like it's some sort of shameful secret and moral failure on our part that we need to confess that we dont see them as lesbian women or gay men.

...people are claiming that their prejudices are an innate part of their sexuality... by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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He seriously seems to have no connection to the gay or lesbian community other than experiencing it through the world of dating. Not civil rights, not humanizing same sex attraction and legitimizing homosexuality, not hate crimes, not confronting the homophobia within religion. Nothing. Seriously, he has no real opinions on the gay community and where it's going outside of the most trivial matters: dating.

This show was so influential to me as gay teen by justagaydude123 in LGBDropTheT

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how the hell could he make that show and be a TRA?

Don't let anyone tell you you're not gay enough, straight people. by Criticallacitirc in LGBDropTheT

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Theyre not. And notice how their "connection" the gay community isnt uplifting and empowering and celebrating homosexuals or same sex relationships? It's all about personal identification to them, not political like civil rights, gay marriage, our culture, bullying and confronting dehumanization. The closest thing she probably experienced as a same sex attraction was fetishizing some woman or touching a boob at 16 years old. It's about making it about her. And there are a lot of these people floating around waiting to paint gays and lesbians as evil for not "recognizing" them.

...people are claiming that their prejudices are an innate part of their sexuality... by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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It's starting. That thing that i even thought was too paranoid to even think of, that they would conceive homosexuality itself as transphobic, is happening.

As he's trying to gaslight people calling him out in his tweets (i looked him up), he's denying it but his "supporters" are saying "same sex attraction" and "homosexuality" is a dog whistle for transphobia.

The biggest pushovers i've seen as a minority are gays and lesbians and im getting tired of it. Even more so than straight women.

+The toxic nexus of fat brigades that are too weak to take on straight and bi people, so they bring their fat armies to attack and colonize the gay community and we let them.

+The black males who refused to take on the straight black community and their homophobia and hoped they could escape the circumstances their cowardice created by fantasizing about dating affluent white surgeons turned into an army of incels attacking the gay community.

+And bisexual men and women pretending theyre victims because they cant use gays and lesbians as some fetish when they openly identity as "hetero romantic".

+And now straight men and women who identify as the opposite sex but still want heterosexual sex but know other straight people have standards so they feel entitled when they settle for the lowly gays and lesbians who should be grateful to be used by them for validation.

Gays and Lesbians have allowed a "fuck me you bigots" coalition to form and attack them from all sides.

This guy seems to think he's being virtuous. But he seems like the type to think he's part of the gay community because he's some recovering meth addict who hung out at the local gay bar and that's all it takes to be some ambassador to all gays and speaks on behalf of his people even though he's bisexual. He sort of forgets it's not about him or his feelings, or the feelings of the "trans" people. It's about the suicidal gay kids gaslighted into thinking conversion therapy can work. This idiot just traverses throughout the entire gay community thinking it's all about dating politics. He's just vile. He knows nothing except experiencing the world through dating and dicks and that informs his politics. Not helping empower the next generation of the gay community or even acknowledging gay kids exist and what he can do to make sure they dont have to face the same challenges he did. He's a narcissist.