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[–]millicentfawcett[S] 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A cracking article by a lesbian woman who is a former NHS Chief Exec. She pulls no punches with this one and it's great to see it in a publication like the HSJ.

[–]DropTheT 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Ok so does anyone on here know what the straw that broke the camels back was? Why now? Stonewall is finally getting its ass kicked with multiple people condeming them, multiple institutions abandoning them but im sure they were always scummy. Did they piss off the wrong heterosexuals? I highly doubt it was gays and lesbians. Or were the gays and lesbians secretly waiting for some societal gear to punch them in the face like that Maya Foster woman? Why are all these people getting so brave now?

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably a domino effect, people see some victories nd her brave enough to take a stand.

[–]MyLongestJourney 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Keira Bell's case.

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. I think it just took a few months for the ripples of Keira's case to start disturbing everything else in the pond. That was what got several countries to start changing their policies on transgender medicalization of children under 16, which stirred things up further. Allison Bailey's case and the LGB Alliance's status as a charity also helped.

edit: I'll also add, all this is great, but I'd love to see some similar progress across the actual pond, i.e. the Atlantic, over here in the US, lol.

[–]Dromedary 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's an accumulated bunch of things, and it's ongoing. Most people, "normies", are slowly becoming aware more and more aware of batshit TRA demands and initiatives, news sites are covering them more (even if they're tabloids like the Mail, I approve). The more people know, the more they're turned off, and the way the TRAs are literally going for peoples' kids, it's about time. People are pushing back.

[–]GConly 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Great article.

My concerns are three-fold. First, and most importantly, Stonewall’s influence is undermining our ability to keep our patients safe. Secondly, it stifles free speech and creates a culture of fear amongst some staff. Thirdly, it gives misleading and potentially unlawful advice, opening up NHS organisations to litigation and reputational damage.

I suspect the last was behind some of the first companies to dump Stonewall. I suspect more of the later wave were doing it because now they had a decent excuse.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Agreed. Corporations are happy to virtue signal and ignore the costs to women and gays when it costs them nothing to do so. When it costs them, they'll start thinking critically.

[–]GConly 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

thinking critically

Gender critically.