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[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Well we don't agree that all sorts of medical procedures should be legal, privately funded or otherwise (eg. lobotomies.) Though the way healthcare works today, we'll all have to pay for this somehow. Personally I'd rather see us place greater limits on unnecessary plastic surgery, and in particular remove any public funding for it, along with removing any requirements for insurers to cover it.

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The public isn't paying for sex change operations in the US, AFAIK. To my knowledge, insurance won't pay for it. In countries with national health insurance, I know of no gender reassignment support. More on that here.

Labotomies: the last recorded lobotomy in the United States was performed by Dr. Walter Freeman in 1967 and ended in the death of the person on whom it was performed. In Europe, the Soviet Union banned lobotomies in 1950 , a year after inventor Dr. Egas Moniz won the Nobel Prize for medicine..

In the US and other wealthy countries, those born with intersex characteristics normally get that corrected while in infancy. In poorer countries there is no correction of intersex characteristics. There are also medical problems for kids with gender dysphoria, which can be treated in children.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Most western countries with public healthcare either fully or partly fund drugs & trans surgery. Canada just paid for a guy to fly to Texas on the taxpayer dime to get an experimental surgery for a fauxgina but keep his dick. He'll probably end up costing us $1M in additional healthcare costs for the rest of his life, however short that may be.

One google search refutes your claim about US insurance. (Obviously they're going to complain it's "too difficult" to access.)

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks for the link. I see that: "it is illegal for your health insurance plan to refuse to cover medically necessary transition-related care."

If I worked for an insurance company, I'd only consider "medically necessary transition-related care" as for infants born with intersex problems. That kind of surgery is done regularly, where - for example - a penis is removed from a female infant (Jamie Lee Curtis supposedly had this done as an infant, but it might only be a rumor). Perhaps hormone therapy for a male infant who accidentally has female characteristics. I cannot think of other medically necessary transition-related care for older children or adults.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

TRAs would now threaten you with their suicides.

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It wouldn't work, in my case. I don't have much sympathy for anyone who kills him/herself. It's up to them.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Look at all the work these weirdo billionaires put into getting insurance to cover this stuff.

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Interesting, if true. The number of trans people is so small that it would be a waste of money to try to appeal to them in the market. And I don't see any evidence in the article that points to references or anything I can check for accuracy.

I see that it's an 'extreme right' website, and considered unreliable, so that might explain their concerns about such a tiny market share.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Pathetic autogenerated hit piece. Jennifer Bilek is probably the world's leading authority researching and exposing the transhumanist money trail. Show me serious a correction or fact-check. I can probably ping her on Twitter and have her defend it personally if needed.

The industry (calling itself "LGBTQ") is worth $3.4T according to their own estimates. This includes the exploding market for surgeries, (and endless follow-up surgeries - each patient can be worth $1M extra over their lifetime,) manufacturing hormones to be doled out at every Planned Parenthood to any teen who walks in, insurance products, and in particular, the fast-growing surrogacy (AKA forced, designer birth) industry that the sterilized transhumanist children of today will need if they want to have kids. An industry ripe for exploitation.

All that said, it is remarkable that such an industry has grown in such a short time. It would lead one to think that the billionaires pushing this thing must be really driven by some intense desire or dark obsession of some kind.

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought we were discussing the small group of transgender folks. We're not discussing all of LGBTQ++++, because that's a different series of arguments. Those who aren't worried about trans people are perhaps 96% of the world's population, give or take 10+ percentage points. If you want to argue that - because there is a financial incentive to reach a small group of trans people - therefore marketers will spend billions on it - this doesn't work because there aren't so many of those people. Hence there isn't much marketing for them. Is there expensive marketing for LGBTQ++++ people? Certainly. But the amount of that marketing for trans people is also small.

I could ask you the same question about Jennifer Bilek. Why does she care so much about these false assumptions about marketing for trans people? She's produced videos and articles with the same faulty argument. She promoting her content because she's paid by Youtube and The 11th Hour and other places for her opinion about marketing for trans people. Does this matter to anyone? Before the US Presidential election, the only strategies Trump and others will try to use are attacks on 'woke' and on immigration to the US. Investors are paying $billions to promote the war on woke, because they're unable to effectively protest against all of the Biden Administrations' and Democrats' successes. So they have to focus on hatred and fear. That's all they have. Jennifer Bilek helps that group by spreading her opinion, which is to hate marketing for rans people. Did that marketing or that tiny industry harm anyone? No. Is she an authority on the subject? If she doesn't understand basic human biology, the varieties of human bodies, and the different kinds of people world-wide, I doubt she knows anything much about trans people.

Hope this helps.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There isn't a while lot of money in actual LGB. The industry is for TQ+++. All the letters after the B are transhumanism. A corporate product, academically legitimized by queer Marxism.