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[–]CheeseWizard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

What is a woman?

[–]YoMamma[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

How's this?:

Typically, women are of the female sex and inherit a pair of X chromosomes, one from each parent, and fertile women are capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause. More generally, sex differentiation of the female fetus is governed by the lack of a present, or functioning, SRY gene on either one of the respective sex chromosomes. Female anatomy is distinguished from male anatomy by the female reproductive system, which includes the ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, vagina, and vulva. However, trans women have a gender identity that does not align with their sex assignment (assigned male at birth), while intersex women may have sex characteristics that do not fit typical notions of female biology.

[–]xoenix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

So "trans women" are just confused men.

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Perhaps.

I'm confused when reading the definition

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

"Gender identity" is a faith-based concept. If people want to believe in disembodied, synthetic sex identities, there's not a whole lot we can do to prevent it. Consenting adults should probably be allowed have their own associations or clubs where they all agree to use whatever pronouns they made up, and share whatever bathroom they want. But it's unscientific nonsense that has no place in laws or public schools, any more than astrology does.

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I would think the gender identity claims are different for everyone who makes them.

I think anyone 18 or above can do whatever they want to themselves, as long as they don't harm others.

The biological argument is much more significant, however, as there are many people who are born with bodies that are - entirely or in part - both male and female. In that case, they have three options: assign themselves the biological sex with the greater percentage in their bodies; choose instead the oposite of this as an identity; or choose instead to be 'non-binary', to identify as two or more sexes.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Well we don't agree that all sorts of medical procedures should be legal, privately funded or otherwise (eg. lobotomies.) Though the way healthcare works today, we'll all have to pay for this somehow. Personally I'd rather see us place greater limits on unnecessary plastic surgery, and in particular remove any public funding for it, along with removing any requirements for insurers to cover it.

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The public isn't paying for sex change operations in the US, AFAIK. To my knowledge, insurance won't pay for it. In countries with national health insurance, I know of no gender reassignment support. More on that here.

Labotomies: the last recorded lobotomy in the United States was performed by Dr. Walter Freeman in 1967 and ended in the death of the person on whom it was performed. In Europe, the Soviet Union banned lobotomies in 1950 , a year after inventor Dr. Egas Moniz won the Nobel Prize for medicine..

In the US and other wealthy countries, those born with intersex characteristics normally get that corrected while in infancy. In poorer countries there is no correction of intersex characteristics. There are also medical problems for kids with gender dysphoria, which can be treated in children.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Most western countries with public healthcare either fully or partly fund drugs & trans surgery. Canada just paid for a guy to fly to Texas on the taxpayer dime to get an experimental surgery for a fauxgina but keep his dick. He'll probably end up costing us $1M in additional healthcare costs for the rest of his life, however short that may be.

One google search refutes your claim about US insurance. (Obviously they're going to complain it's "too difficult" to access.)

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks for the link. I see that: "it is illegal for your health insurance plan to refuse to cover medically necessary transition-related care."

If I worked for an insurance company, I'd only consider "medically necessary transition-related care" as for infants born with intersex problems. That kind of surgery is done regularly, where - for example - a penis is removed from a female infant (Jamie Lee Curtis supposedly had this done as an infant, but it might only be a rumor). Perhaps hormone therapy for a male infant who accidentally has female characteristics. I cannot think of other medically necessary transition-related care for older children or adults.

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Look at all the work these weirdo billionaires put into getting insurance to cover this stuff.

[–]YoMamma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Interesting, if true. The number of trans people is so small that it would be a waste of money to try to appeal to them in the market. And I don't see any evidence in the article that points to references or anything I can check for accuracy.

I see that it's an 'extreme right' website, and considered unreliable, so that might explain their concerns about such a tiny market share.