Russia would defeat the USA in a nuclear war

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[–]Gaslov 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Spending doesn't mean shit. There's little reason to believe the US military is actually effective. It's just a big extortion ring that lives off the labor of the American worker.

[–]Smalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Why do you think that is?

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

All militaries are a drain on the economy. They produce the same amount of goods and services as someone on welfare. That doesn't mean they aren't working hard, but what they're doing doesn't have value. If we truly have "threats" why are they here at home and not dealing with these threats?

[–]Smalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How does that make it ineffective?

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The US has a lot of loses. Four of four conflicts that China was a part of resulted in defeat with the Korean war at least not being a total failure. The US has not been in a conflict that wasn't massacuring what are essentially militias in a long long time. Defeating a beleaguered Iraq is played up as some great accomplishment which is really pathetic. The US has demonstrated that they do not hold a meaningful technical edge over Russia by their equipment's performance in Ukraine. The loss is spun as "oh that was just junk we sent" which either means a) we're gullible to believe that or b) our leaders suck. Either way you spin it, we lose.

The US isn't the military power house that it used to be and the current generation of leaders is riding on the coattails of a reputation that's long become untrue.

[–]Smalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough, but this is the part where we widely disagree on the facts supporting your claims.