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[–]PsychoTranyRedditMod 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What has happened with El Salvador is crazy. They went martial law to get a handle on the rampant crime, and made a huge positive difference.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Where people should be curious, investigating and looking at what's working they default into screaming about their local political biases

[–]PsychoTranyRedditMod 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fragile Redditer syndrome.

Also, I found it fascinating what happened with El Salvador, and discovered that the best government is a benevolant dictator, but those rarely last more than a generation or two, as someone will inevitably usurp power and use the unlimited power given to them by the structure set up to ransack the country's wealth and turn it into a dystopia.

[–]xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Canada has arguably been a "benevolent dictatorship" since 1982 (new Charter effectively said individual rights end whenever the government needs them to.) Most of us figure it stopped being benevolent sometime around 2015.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They went martial law to get a handle on the rampant crime,

The problem is that there are a huge number of people locked up without a day in court.

It's a risk we decided not to take, but you can certainly do it more cheaply if you just lock people up on suspicion. There will be more than a few people in there who's ex or business rival or bad neighbour decided to fuck them over though.

and made a huge positive difference.

For most people. And a huge negative for some.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those people in prison are still alive, the same isn't true for murder victims. It's the murder rate which has dropped massively, not the bad feelz rate.

[–]PsychoTranyRedditMod 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, with more aggressive control, the false positive rate goes up. I saw in a documentary that they were arresting people based on their age, location, and features like tatoos, and given ultimate power to detain anybody they saw fit.

Then again, after "cleaning up", the rest of the population didn't have to fear leaving their homes, and business and economy could flourish again. According to that documentary, 2% of the El Salvador population is incarcerated, which is the highest in the world. Is it worth the cost of catching a few innocents? Who knows. It was very interesting, though.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Holy shit. Some Latin American country using nukes against UK operatives? This is gonna be exciting.

::Clicks link:: Never mind. It was not exciting.